Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I know some of you get really sore(especially the ones that are in the more brutal fighting styles) after a session or a competition. Do you guys regularly take ibuprofen or other agents afterwards. I just started taking Krav Maga, the Israeli military combat style, and I have to say this is the SHIT!! I took tae kwon do and ishinryu karate back in the day but this is nothing like it. Even our training is different. It's like a combination of karate drills, and boot camp type drills, plus we really learn real life fighting and self defense techniques right from the start. Also, since I haven't done any cardio it's really going to help me with my conditioning. Only thing though is that I'm used to my bodybuilding workouts and all these ballistic style training is completely different. My shoulders get so sore but I'm sure I will get used to it. Anyone feel it's ok to take advils immediately after a session or that night on the regular? Or do you guys already do this? I'm taking classes 2-3 times a week and that's the only time I will take it. I need it for my joints until I get used to it.
Fighters and martial artists in here.....
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chanmanfoo
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i boxed for about five years through my late teens and early twenties. at first pain could get pretty bad and i was eating advil all the time, it gradually got better but with full contact like that there is going to be pain. just try and stay away from the nubain and percs, that shit almost killed me. Krav Maga sounds like fun, it will keep you in top condition. good luck bro.
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long term use of even OTC stuff like tylenol/ibu is not good at all. If you need to take it for muscle soreness go ahead but dont take anti-inflamatories for an injury it will slow healing big time.
I highly recommend you try and week yourself off the stuff as soon as possible though and as you become more accustomed to the training it shouldnt be a big deal. I trained in Southern praying mantis when I was younder before I got real serious into lifting and I was always hurting from bruises and what not. Later on I studied Bagua for many years and I had to lower the intensity on the weights or I would over train, especially since I lifted in the AM(4 days a week) and trained in bagua for 2-3 hours after work 5 days a week.
I highly recommend you try and week yourself off the stuff as soon as possible though and as you become more accustomed to the training it shouldnt be a big deal. I trained in Southern praying mantis when I was younder before I got real serious into lifting and I was always hurting from bruises and what not. Later on I studied Bagua for many years and I had to lower the intensity on the weights or I would over train, especially since I lifted in the AM(4 days a week) and trained in bagua for 2-3 hours after work 5 days a week.
Thx guys. Yeah Zyg I also lowered my overall sets for my weight training workouts as well so I can take full advantage of my recovery. Hmmmmmm more AS would help I'm sure but this isn't the route I'm looking to go for either.
Right now my schedule is as follows:
Monday - Chest, Triceps, Delts, Abs
Tuesday - Krav Maga
Wednesday - Legs
Thursday - Krav Maga
Friday - Back, Biceps, Forearms
Saturday - optional - Krav Maga
Sunday - Rest
Right now my schedule is as follows:
Monday - Chest, Triceps, Delts, Abs
Tuesday - Krav Maga
Wednesday - Legs
Thursday - Krav Maga
Friday - Back, Biceps, Forearms
Saturday - optional - Krav Maga
Sunday - Rest
SofaGeorge
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Zyglamail said:
Holy christ... I thought I'd be the only person here who ever studied Pa Kua (bagua). I used to hire a private teacher. It gave me legs of steel. I don't think there was anything I could ever do that was a better leg workout... but practice was murder.
Mike, you are learning the lesson all of us learned - that all martial arts styles are NOT created equal. I started studying different martial arts styles 30 years ago... wasted a lot of time in karate and kung fu schools that didn't give me a whole lot. Once I discovered more applicable styles (boxing and muay thai being my favorites) I really started to learn in a whole new light. (I haven't had much experience with Krav Maga... but I put it in the "good" category. Many people that I've trained with really respect it.)
Painkillers aren't necessary. I won't lie to you and say every few weeks I don't pop a couple advils... I do... but like Zyg stated - you need to wean yourself off this as a practice. I do it on the occassion. If I spar 5 rounds with a top competitor... and then hit legs... that may put me over for the night, but if I saw myself even doing it as much as once a week I'd stop completely.
You can learn to deal with any amount of pain. You don't want to weaken yourself by relying on painkillers.
Biter
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Krav Maga rocks. I took it for a year and a half before an injury. Will teach you mad fighting skills. Like George, I've taken several martial arts over the years, and really only one could match Krav Maga for it's effectiveness (Shaoling Pek Ho Pai).
At first I used to pop an advil or two afterwards. Eventually, your body will adapt to it and you won't need it anymore, maybe just occasionally. A hot tub or massage can always help too. Where are you taking Krav?
One mistake I made was to do abs on the same day, because I missed them on the day before. Big mistake on my part - I ended up with a huge ab tear as well as a torn rectus femoris. The shit STILL hurts like a bitch on a regular basis.
At first I used to pop an advil or two afterwards. Eventually, your body will adapt to it and you won't need it anymore, maybe just occasionally. A hot tub or massage can always help too. Where are you taking Krav?
One mistake I made was to do abs on the same day, because I missed them on the day before. Big mistake on my part - I ended up with a huge ab tear as well as a torn rectus femoris. The shit STILL hurts like a bitch on a regular basis.
Hi guys,
I took Karate (Kenkokan style--similar to Kempo) for 6 years. After I got my black belt I went into Tai Boxing and thought I was the shit. Well soon I found out how little guys can hit harder then me (6'4" 235lbs lean) and can take my punishment as well. I learned the hard of not dropping my hands even when kicking.
The Tai I learned has some Savate so there is more moving around then the traditional. When a Tai guy throws a round house he does it with full momentum and with his shin, therefore it creates a major blow. The use of low kicks, elbows and knees is the main reason it is superior to regular kick-boxing. I have been doing it for 4 years and had 3 amateur fights. The amatuer fights are so brutal that they are banned where I live (Toronto Canada)
Krav Maga, I don't know much but saw it in the top 10 martial arts. From what I saw I like it. It looks like when they strike they want to cause damage (similar to Tai)
As far as medication IO never take anything, just deal with the pain/swelling etc. I have a lot of injuries, mostly broken toes, fingers, badly bruised knuckles, shin bones and small bones in the foot. I am so lazy after that I most often don't even ice. A month ago I trained with a friend of mine and got my foot swollen like a balloon from hitting his elbow. I didn't ice it and the swelling lasted a week. I know I should ice and will try to do it next time.
My suggestion is to tolerate the pain and sorness without any meds. That way you condition your body to take pain and will get used to it.
Good luck
DR. JK
I took Karate (Kenkokan style--similar to Kempo) for 6 years. After I got my black belt I went into Tai Boxing and thought I was the shit. Well soon I found out how little guys can hit harder then me (6'4" 235lbs lean) and can take my punishment as well. I learned the hard of not dropping my hands even when kicking.
The Tai I learned has some Savate so there is more moving around then the traditional. When a Tai guy throws a round house he does it with full momentum and with his shin, therefore it creates a major blow. The use of low kicks, elbows and knees is the main reason it is superior to regular kick-boxing. I have been doing it for 4 years and had 3 amateur fights. The amatuer fights are so brutal that they are banned where I live (Toronto Canada)
Krav Maga, I don't know much but saw it in the top 10 martial arts. From what I saw I like it. It looks like when they strike they want to cause damage (similar to Tai)
As far as medication IO never take anything, just deal with the pain/swelling etc. I have a lot of injuries, mostly broken toes, fingers, badly bruised knuckles, shin bones and small bones in the foot. I am so lazy after that I most often don't even ice. A month ago I trained with a friend of mine and got my foot swollen like a balloon from hitting his elbow. I didn't ice it and the swelling lasted a week. I know I should ice and will try to do it next time.
My suggestion is to tolerate the pain and sorness without any meds. That way you condition your body to take pain and will get used to it.
Good luck
DR. JK
bronxbison
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Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Muay Thai, Boxing and Wrestling are the superior martial arts for one on one fighting. Krav Maga ans a few others are also useful but not at all necessary to know to fight. If you have gaps in your Jiu Jitsu, Wrestling or Boxing game you can be in trouble in a fight.
FISHTALES
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just started a mixed martial arts class e couple months ago, major soreness in left arm, from elbow to shoulder, most in the class say they had similiar pains of some sort, mostly tendonitis and deep sore muscle, only time will heal it, and ice, they also recoment tiger balm, especially in the shins. it seems to make my arm feel a little better.
40butpumpin
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granby140 said:
This is great advice imo. Pain killers, as has been already stated, I don't believe are the answer either bro. I remember how much pain I was in during the first month of grappling, it was like everything on my body was in pain. I remember working just to get out of bed in the morning as well as having difficulty sleeping with it. But alas, one day I woke up and the pain was gone I felt like a piece of steel. Your body will adjust man. In the mean time massages and wet heat would do wonders for relaxing you, especially if the massager is female, large breasts...well, you get the picture.
I wrestled in college, and now do some professional NHB fighting. The best thing is to just let your body adjust to it naturally and you'll be stronger for it. It's hard in the beginning but you'll adapt. You'll commonly get knots and muscle strains, so I'll go get a massage every couple weeks and also have my girlfriend do it as often as possible when I can convince her.
For boxing your shoulders will get sore as hell, and your elbow joints will suffer. . .all I can say is tough it out, it gets easier as you get used to it.
Good luck.
For boxing your shoulders will get sore as hell, and your elbow joints will suffer. . .all I can say is tough it out, it gets easier as you get used to it.
Good luck.
SofaGeorge
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40butpumpin said:In the mean time massages and wet heat would do wonders for relaxing you, especially if the massager is female, large breasts...well, you get the picture.
I think only us guys who are over 40 really know the trick of coming home after a tough workout and pouring on that Gregory Peck thing... look her in the eye when you toss the boxing gloves on the floor... take a shower... check her twinkly eyes out again while you stretch a little... then curl up with her in front of the TV and say, "Hey, hon, could you rub my shoulder for a minute?"
40butpumpin
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SofaGeorge said:
I think only us guys who are over 40 really know the trick of coming home after a tough workout and pouring on that Gregory Peck thing... look her in the eye when you toss the boxing gloves on the floor... take a shower... check her twinkly eyes out again while you stretch a little... then curl up with her in front of the TV and say, "Hey, hon, could you rub my shoulder for a minute?"
hehe, see, now that beats Ibuprofin any day! That's what I'm talking about.
Right on Sofa man!
