Feeling sick coming off a cycle

[TomOf Bangkok]

Am new to the steroid thing - and a novice to using. Am a fitness pro but always steered clear of the juice until recently.

Have been seeing a doctor that oversees / prescribes my cycles and injections, but recently I have become suspicious about his anabolic steroid knowledge / expertise / understanding of side effects.

I came off a cycle 4 weeks ago and have since had 2 HCG injections and a liver count test (it's up to 80). My moods have been shit, getting depressed, and sleeping is interrupted. I read recently that the antieostregeon you take can have a bad affect on your cardio health. I was on nolvadex throughout the cycle, and every time I needed to do cardio felt sick or like I couldn't do it at all (pumping iron was not a problem at all). This was a shit seeing as I earn a large percentage of my income teaching cardio classes, which I get a buzz from. Unfortunately there was a nasty flu going around for a while here and I put a lot of it down to that - now the flu has gone am still getting the side effects mentioned before.

My cycle had low doses of trenbolone, deca, test, and stanozolol in varying combinations throughout. The cycle went for about two months - test was always included, as was the nolvadex, some weeks the trenbolone was the principal and others the deca or stanozolol. I put on around 5 kilos of decent muscle and have low b/f (always had the low b/f so getting more cut was a nice bonus).

Doc has mysteriously backed off from answering my emails and appears to have "lost interest" - certainly in the complications that have arisen as part of the cycle.

Any suggestions?

 

[chordz]

Am new to the steroid thing - and a novice to using. Am a fitness pro but always steered clear of the juice until recently.

Have been seeing a doctor that oversees / prescribes my cycles and injections, but recently I have become suspicious about his anabolic steroid knowledge / expertise / understanding of side effects.

I came off a cycle 4 weeks ago and have since had 2 HCG injections and a liver count test (it's up to 80). My moods have been shit, getting depressed, and sleeping is interrupted. I read recently that the antieostregeon you take can have a bad affect on your cardio health. I was on nolvadex throughout the cycle, and every time I needed to do cardio felt sick or like I couldn't do it at all (pumping iron was not a problem at all). This was a shit seeing as I earn a large percentage of my income teaching cardio classes, which I get a buzz from. Unfortunately there was a nasty flu going around for a while here and I put a lot of it down to that - now the flu has gone am still getting the side effects mentioned before.

My cycle had low doses of trenbolone, deca, test, and stanozolol in varying combinations throughout. The cycle went for about two months - test was always included, as was the nolvadex, some weeks the trenbolone was the principal and others the deca or stanozolol. I put on around 5 kilos of decent muscle and have low b/f (always had the low b/f so getting more cut was a nice bonus).

Doc has mysteriously backed off from answering my emails and appears to have "lost interest" - certainly in the complications that have arisen as part of the cycle.

Any suggestions?

I would have used the Nolva only if needed. What are you doing for PCT? You are crashing as they call it.

 

[scout69]

deffinately crashing it happens sometimes when this happens to me i pop some klonapin..And I wouldnt have suggested using the nolvedex unless you startd to see signs of gyno

 

[TomOf Bangkok]

what is pct?

 

[i am what i am]

post cycle therapy. it is what you are suppose to take post cycle to bring your natural testosterone back to your normal levels, as the artificial testosterone has suppressed it. You need clomid, nolvadex, or hcg. I prefer clomid, but since you have nolvedex or had nolvedex, that works just as well.

 

[PolfaJelfa]

You didnt do your research before deciding to cycle.

Go read the thread at the top called "newbies read this" it talks about PCT.....

POST CYCLE RECOVERY....there are more things you need to take to bring your test levels back up....also it will take a while.....and you will feel shity in meantime....weak low test levels...etc.

Read Newbies Read this thread by MR.X

 

[chordz]

You will feel shity and a huge loss of motivation while crashing and if you felt like crap on your cycle it may have been because of the fact you were stacking 4 different drugs on a first cycle. A moderate dose of test and some Nolva on hand in case you need it would have been a smooth cycle and in my opinion not too hard to recover from,.. once you start adding the Tren, Deca you shut yourself down further and need PCT. Use the HCG twards the end of your cycle next time then on to Clomid on Nolva after cycle is done.

 

[boxerjake]

First off i'd kick the old doc in the nuts if it were me ...

Why so many compounds on the first time out is just plain crazy , how do you tell what is doing what to your body when you literaly swimming in compounds ..

As a novice one should experiment with different compound first to see what if any reactions occur , it's the safe route to go .

Your estrogen is likly thru the roof right now , how do your nipples feel ? are they tingly to the touch or kinda tender to touch ? these are signs of gyno and a sure bet your estrogen is to high as the test has amoratized into estrogen ...

At the very least i would try get hold of some proviron and get down 25mg a day to try put a stop at the receptor sites ..

I'm not a fan of clomid or nolv as they treat the symtoms not the cause , most pro's have found that clomid is not what it has been touted as and does not work on every one , in fact it can work in reverse in some and as you are a novice you are not likly able to catch the warning signs ( nothing personal ) ..

The feeling like shit is a combination of things happening to you the least of which is a huge release of cortisol post cycle which really drains you ..

do lots of reading on boards such as this one before you decide to tackle cycle #2 .

I alos teach a spin class so i can tell you first hand which compouds kick the crap out of your cardio or cause muscle failure early ( like androl ) ...

 

[TomOf Bangkok]

Boxerjake: the drained feeling is spot on. Which compounds kick the crap out of cardio as you say? Have not had a real muscle failure experience yet. My tits are fine - in fact my nipples changed shape a little to look even better than before.

Yes, after educating myself more on boards like these (I thought I was hiring a professional to know all this stuff for me) it seems that the doc was in deed out of line with the cocktail of stuff he had me on. He certainly loses my respect for his post cycle therapy awareness / advice. Am trying to make up for it by educating myself now but still feeling shitty.

 

[anal itch]

Why would any doc prescribe tren. It's used in cattle. I think the doc story is BS.