favorite creatine free pre workout

[liffalot]

So I'm not a big fan of creatine to begin with, but I can tolerate it on bulk cycles because a lot of really good pre workouts have creatine in them and its effective for its purposes. However, it does bloat me a bit and I retain water everywhere which stifles definition.....

So, when I'm on a cutting cycle, I generally just dont use a pre workout. Lately, however, its been tough for me to find the energy to follow my workouts with cardio routines because I'm just so damned burnt out and tired.....


So does anyone have any good suggestions for non-creatine pre workout supplements?

 

[training700]

Look into stimulant type products that are more aimed at fat loss give a good boost without any creatine

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[joeblow12345]

Ntkts from ntbm is great.

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[IncredibleHoss]

try n2amp with n2kts!!

creatine i use powerchews creatine

 

[liffalot]

N2KTS has creatine in it though. Thats what I usually take when I'm not trying to cut, but I'm trying to find something else for cut cycles.

I'll give N2AMP a try, thanks.

 

[IncredibleHoss]

no problem. such good pumps on that stuff. i love it