Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Anyone who gets the Chicago Tribune should read the article where Lewis Faraakan says that the U.S. needs to prove that Osama Bin Laden was behind the attacks on 9/11. He also says that he thinks the government is lying about Bin Laden's involvement. Fuck you Farrarkan. Why don't you take your ass to Afghanistan and join the Jihad.
F*** Lewis Farrarkan
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strongchick
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BigGuns2 said:
Read the whole thread on this war is really about oil....I have a feeling you may see things differently...
I don't think Farrakhan intends to support terrorism...he is just questioning how we go about stomping it out...if none of us has seen proof (we haven't...if you have it, post it here) then perhaps we should re-think this war effort so that our bullets go where they are most effective.
Raghead Remover
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Now what organization does he represent?? Oh yeah, the nation of Islam. Freakin Muslim once again.
They all think alike.
They all think alike.
strongchick
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Re: Re: Re: F*** Lewis Farrarkan
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=68550
Days of the Tantric said:
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=68550
the nature boy
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I didn't think people listened to lewis farakahan. That's too bad. If you've heard all the bullshit the nation of islam says about jews you'd shit yourself laughing or crying. Real bunch of positive people.
That million man march was a joke. more like 10,000 moron march.
That million man march was a joke. more like 10,000 moron march.
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JohnyJuice
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People like Farrakkan are the reason the word "nigger" is still in use. What do you do when things dont go the way you want them?? Blame the white man!! He the devil!
This fucker is,and always has been,a scourge to society.His messages are always of hatred,blaming everyone else for his race's problems,and what a lousy country the U.S.A.is.If this place is so terrible,and you don't believe we have enough evidence against the terrorist to strike back,then get your sorry ass the fuck out of this country and go fight against us like the terrorists.You deserve the same fate as them,shit-heel.Fuck you.
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1911
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Lewis is an ignorant hater and has been on my "mental ignore list" for decades. Any diatribe that “oozes from that colostomy bag” is meaningless and irrelevant.
Later,
Later,
I don't think he will be around spouting his line of fanatic black muslim shit for much longer. I 'm not saying I wish him physical harm, but Malcom X got his ass shot by his own race, chances are the same fate awaits him. I won't cry when he's gone, and no will cry in Washington DC when he's gone either. The FBI is on his ass like stink, and if they can tie him in on ANYTHING ILLEGAL he's toast.
strongchick
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Gorlim said:
yawn. I'm far from stupid, and YOU are far from a thinker.
strongchick
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The Nature Boy said:
nice to condemn the leader, but condemn the people who marched, who marched as Black men, not as men of Farrakahn ....
you exhibit incredible stupidity.
BigGuns2 said:
i didn't get the same understanding from the reading. i guess it's true, when they say 10 people can look at a pic (or an article) and get 10 different perceptions.
My understanding is that Mr. Farrakhan, has stated that our Government claims to have proof that Bin Laden, was responsible for the attacks, so why not show it to the world. He then adds, how the government has lied in the past (and i am sure no one will disagree), so how are we certain that this is not another case.
no disrespect BigGuns, but you have changed the entire tone of the article. would you have made the same post if it were David Duke, in the article ?
oh and i too know hundreds who were affected by the attack. i had to run for my life that morning. i don't believe you can tell the families of those missing/killed anything that will justify what has happened.
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"yawn. I'm far from stupid, and YOU are far from a thinker."
IQ,occupation, income,summa-cum lade or magna-cum lade?
IQ,occupation, income,summa-cum lade or magna-cum lade?
Here:
David Duke says the same thing, and i have yet to see a post about his article:
An open letter to the President of the United States
By David Duke, National President
European-American Unity and Rights Organization (EURO)
Thursday, September 21, 2001
But Please Tell Us the Whole Truth!
George W. Bush
President of the United States
Dear Mr. President,
During your passionate and truly great speech before Congress, you told us of the need to protect America against terrorism. True. You also eloquently told us of the greatness and the courage exhibited by many Americans during the crisis faced on September 11. As a former elected official who has heard thousands of speeches, I must say that yours was perhaps one of the best speeches I have heard in my lifetime.
But, Mr. President, Sir, you also told Congress and the American people something quite inaccurate.
I quote:
Americans are asking, "Why do they hate us?"
They hate what they see right here in this chamber: a democratically elected government. Their leaders are self-appointed. They hate our freedoms: our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other.
With all do respect to you, Mr. President, that statement is completely false. The media has said repeatedly and incorrectly that this was an attack against freedom, and unfortunately you simply repeated that absurd idea in your speech.
The obvious truth is that those who attacked us couldn't care less about the kind of government we have. They did not attack us because they hate our democracy or our freedoms. They certainly did not attack Switzerland or Sweden or any other democracies in the world.
I pray that you will agree with me that the American people deserve the utmost honesty before we take the most serious and dangerous step that a nation can ever make: go to war.
The attack on September 11 was certainly not about people hating our freedoms. It was purely in response to America's foreign policy; and it was primarily about our monetary and military support of Israel.
As strange as it may sound to Americans, those who attack us do so because they view our nation's leaders in exactly the same way as we view them. They believe that you and all of America's recent leaders are the real terrorists.
If you want to know the true reasons why they attack America, you can easily read what they write about America. There are even many interviews with Bin Laden that make clear his motivations.
He and many others say that they must fight America for its support of 50 years of Israel's terrorism against the Palestinian and other Mideastern people. He says this in precisely the same way that some say we must bomb Afghanistan into further oblivion for supporting the terrorism of Bin Laden.
America is seen as a terrorist nation for having supported the Israeli ethnic cleansing of 700,000 Palestinians from their land and homes and the stripping them of their most basic human rights, even depriving them of the right to live where they were born!
America is accused of supporting terrorism for backing Israel, even America is aware that Israel tortures 500 to 600 Palestinians in its jails each month.
America is called terrorist for supporting Israel even as it killed 40,000 Lebanese in its invasion of that country. They ask the world how America could support Israel even as it bombed civilian Red Cross shelters and killed women and children by the score.
Millions of people ask how the President of the United States could dine in the White House with Ariel Sharon, a man with a proven history of massacring civilians, and who even Israel held responsible for the cold-blooded murder of 2000 people at the Sabra and Shatila camps in Lebanon.
America is also called a terrorist state for causing the death of more than 500,000 Iraqi children.
It is difficult for us to act morally superior to our enemies when our own U.S. Secretary of State, Madeline Albright, told Leslie Stahl of CBS that America's causing the death of 500,000 Iraqi children was "worth it." What would you say, Mr. President, of someone who thinks it is worth killing 500,000 children in order to punish one man?
Of course, whatever the reasons for the attack on September 11, Americans must defend ourselves by whatever means necessary. No American should ever face such horrible terror as on that fateful black Tuesday. And, I salute your determination to defend us.
But, before we respond in an indiscriminate way and breed even more hatred against us, we must be honest about why we are hated and why we are being attacked.
Telling us that we were attacked simply because they hate our freedom -- keeps America from examining the real reasons why we are hated. It must be acknowledged that we cannot end the terrorism against us unless we first heal the hatred that spawns it.
Of course, the Israel Firsters who control America's media don't want us to discuss the dire consequences of our monetary and military actions for Israel. They don't want us to even discuss the relationship between Israel and the events of September 11. Some are even telling the big lie that the attacks had nothing to do with our support of Israel. It is strange that Europe and the whole world recognize this obvious fact, but the American people do not.
We must access the anti-American consequences of our Mideast Policy. It is vital to our own national security.
As President, you must carefully reconsider our foreign involvement and policies over the last 50 years. You must determine if it is truly in the best interest of the American people to be involved in all these foreign wars and conflicts.
As President you were sworn to defend the United States, not Israel or any other foreign nation. I beseech you to exclusively put first the interests of the American people. We cannot afford to be manipulated by powerful lobbies who owe their allegiance to Israel over that of America.
You must also certainly recognize that the agenda of the Jewish-dominated news media can seriously conflict with the interests of the American people. I pray that you as our President will single-mindedly put the interests of the American people first, last and always.
The tragic events of September 11 did not happen because people hate America's freedom. Unless we examine the root causes of the growing hatred against our country, we shall be doomed to suffer more terrible days like September 11. Let us not be drawn into the hatreds and blood feuds of foreign nations.
May God keep and protect you Mr. President. And may He also give America and all the American people His shining protection.
You have in your hands the most powerful sword on earth. At this critical moment in American history may God grant you the wisdom to use its power to heal rather than to inflame an even greater cycle of hate and violence against the American people.
In whatever course of action you take, I urge you to defy the power of the Zionist lobby which serves the interests of a foreign nation, and put first the safety and interests of the American people.
In Your Service and for America!
David Duke
David Duke says the same thing, and i have yet to see a post about his article:
An open letter to the President of the United States
By David Duke, National President
European-American Unity and Rights Organization (EURO)
Thursday, September 21, 2001
But Please Tell Us the Whole Truth!
George W. Bush
President of the United States
Dear Mr. President,
During your passionate and truly great speech before Congress, you told us of the need to protect America against terrorism. True. You also eloquently told us of the greatness and the courage exhibited by many Americans during the crisis faced on September 11. As a former elected official who has heard thousands of speeches, I must say that yours was perhaps one of the best speeches I have heard in my lifetime.
But, Mr. President, Sir, you also told Congress and the American people something quite inaccurate.
I quote:
Americans are asking, "Why do they hate us?"
They hate what they see right here in this chamber: a democratically elected government. Their leaders are self-appointed. They hate our freedoms: our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other.
With all do respect to you, Mr. President, that statement is completely false. The media has said repeatedly and incorrectly that this was an attack against freedom, and unfortunately you simply repeated that absurd idea in your speech.
The obvious truth is that those who attacked us couldn't care less about the kind of government we have. They did not attack us because they hate our democracy or our freedoms. They certainly did not attack Switzerland or Sweden or any other democracies in the world.
I pray that you will agree with me that the American people deserve the utmost honesty before we take the most serious and dangerous step that a nation can ever make: go to war.
The attack on September 11 was certainly not about people hating our freedoms. It was purely in response to America's foreign policy; and it was primarily about our monetary and military support of Israel.
As strange as it may sound to Americans, those who attack us do so because they view our nation's leaders in exactly the same way as we view them. They believe that you and all of America's recent leaders are the real terrorists.
If you want to know the true reasons why they attack America, you can easily read what they write about America. There are even many interviews with Bin Laden that make clear his motivations.
He and many others say that they must fight America for its support of 50 years of Israel's terrorism against the Palestinian and other Mideastern people. He says this in precisely the same way that some say we must bomb Afghanistan into further oblivion for supporting the terrorism of Bin Laden.
America is seen as a terrorist nation for having supported the Israeli ethnic cleansing of 700,000 Palestinians from their land and homes and the stripping them of their most basic human rights, even depriving them of the right to live where they were born!
America is accused of supporting terrorism for backing Israel, even America is aware that Israel tortures 500 to 600 Palestinians in its jails each month.
America is called terrorist for supporting Israel even as it killed 40,000 Lebanese in its invasion of that country. They ask the world how America could support Israel even as it bombed civilian Red Cross shelters and killed women and children by the score.
Millions of people ask how the President of the United States could dine in the White House with Ariel Sharon, a man with a proven history of massacring civilians, and who even Israel held responsible for the cold-blooded murder of 2000 people at the Sabra and Shatila camps in Lebanon.
America is also called a terrorist state for causing the death of more than 500,000 Iraqi children.
It is difficult for us to act morally superior to our enemies when our own U.S. Secretary of State, Madeline Albright, told Leslie Stahl of CBS that America's causing the death of 500,000 Iraqi children was "worth it." What would you say, Mr. President, of someone who thinks it is worth killing 500,000 children in order to punish one man?
Of course, whatever the reasons for the attack on September 11, Americans must defend ourselves by whatever means necessary. No American should ever face such horrible terror as on that fateful black Tuesday. And, I salute your determination to defend us.
But, before we respond in an indiscriminate way and breed even more hatred against us, we must be honest about why we are hated and why we are being attacked.
Telling us that we were attacked simply because they hate our freedom -- keeps America from examining the real reasons why we are hated. It must be acknowledged that we cannot end the terrorism against us unless we first heal the hatred that spawns it.
Of course, the Israel Firsters who control America's media don't want us to discuss the dire consequences of our monetary and military actions for Israel. They don't want us to even discuss the relationship between Israel and the events of September 11. Some are even telling the big lie that the attacks had nothing to do with our support of Israel. It is strange that Europe and the whole world recognize this obvious fact, but the American people do not.
We must access the anti-American consequences of our Mideast Policy. It is vital to our own national security.
As President, you must carefully reconsider our foreign involvement and policies over the last 50 years. You must determine if it is truly in the best interest of the American people to be involved in all these foreign wars and conflicts.
As President you were sworn to defend the United States, not Israel or any other foreign nation. I beseech you to exclusively put first the interests of the American people. We cannot afford to be manipulated by powerful lobbies who owe their allegiance to Israel over that of America.
You must also certainly recognize that the agenda of the Jewish-dominated news media can seriously conflict with the interests of the American people. I pray that you as our President will single-mindedly put the interests of the American people first, last and always.
The tragic events of September 11 did not happen because people hate America's freedom. Unless we examine the root causes of the growing hatred against our country, we shall be doomed to suffer more terrible days like September 11. Let us not be drawn into the hatreds and blood feuds of foreign nations.
May God keep and protect you Mr. President. And may He also give America and all the American people His shining protection.
You have in your hands the most powerful sword on earth. At this critical moment in American history may God grant you the wisdom to use its power to heal rather than to inflame an even greater cycle of hate and violence against the American people.
In whatever course of action you take, I urge you to defy the power of the Zionist lobby which serves the interests of a foreign nation, and put first the safety and interests of the American people.
In Your Service and for America!
David Duke
DcupSheepNipples said:
all of the above should not be used to gauge one's intellect. how about using ones level of happiness.
i know several so called millionaires, who graduated, summa-cum, from our countries best academics institutions, making $750k / yr that are unhappy. as a matter a fact, take a walk down 5th ave here in NY....LOLOLOLOLOLOL
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the nature boy
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strongchick said:
stupidity? Me? Those people should have been at work, instead of listening to that hate mongering moron. Have you heard his horrible calypso music??? HAVE YOU?? HE IS A SCUMBAG, A HATE MONGERING SCUMBAG!! He sang of killing the white man and jews. You don't think it's true? Then listen to it. Then you can kiss my ass for calling me stupid. Don't make me post links to what he and his people have said, because then you'll look stupid sweetheart.
I thought people were wrong to call you all the names they did on your other thread, even if I didn't agree with what you said.
the nature boy
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David Duke and Farrakhan. Too people who need to be shot.
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dballer
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The Million Man march was a huge sucess. Only 2 people had to take off work.
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dballer
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..... I know you laughed.... don't lie to DBaller
what the hell does level of happiness have to do with inteligence? Thats the most ridiculous thing i've heard. The ignorant are usually pretty happy. Most retards are happy to. Just cuz someone is unhappy doesnt mean they are stupid infact im going to deduct that your stupid from that statement.2EZ2BRICH said:
Gorlim said:
What does this have to do with Happiness ? LOL i tell you what, i will try to revisit this with you when you are a little wiser...LOL oh yeah, poor example of deductive reasoning....hehehe try again !
"the ills of our society will never be cured until our politicians become philosophers, or philosophers, politicians."
Socratic Methods
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DcupSheepNipples
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strongchick=2EZ2BRICH and whatever other board names you have, just answer the question! I have repeatedly answered your attacks and everytime you hide and disappear behind other board names.
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DcupSheepNipples
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"do me a favor, ask half the mods here and all the other boards about me...hehehe i'm old school. i have been a mod on more boards than cycles you have done. LOL"
Answer the question! Don't change the subject.
Answer the question! Don't change the subject.
strongchick
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The Nature Boy said:
Black men were marching for a unity cause, not necessarily for or with Farrakhan...he just organized the march....many people who are not Farrakhan followers wanted to make a show of unity, so they came to the march.
All leaders say inflammatory things for publicity, to incite emotion, etc. Take what they say with a grain of salt.
I am not a Farrakhan follower...it is just that you claim he is racist, and in the same breath, condemn blacks in general for marching. YOu are just as racist.
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BigPhysicsBastard
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uhhh, did David Duke "really" write that piece??? What the fuck does he care about palestinians being ethnically cleansed?? Is he trying to be legit now?? As for Farrakhan, I don't care what reasonable points the man brought up in some article. I've heard enough babble STRAIGHT from that assclown's mouth to warrant NEVER taking him seriously again. He's worse than Jackson when it comes to blaming EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING on black people's problems. We have a local public access station here where I live that carries his speeches, and I've listened to more than a few of them on boring saturday afternoons. The things he say's will put a grown man on the floor in tears.........that this man has ANY credibility within his race is astounding, but also disturbing.
the nature boy
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strongchick said:
Ok let's look at your logic. If David Duke held a parade for white unity, what would you think about the whites that attended? I would think they are MORONS for taking part in an event that he organized!! Should we take what David Duke or any other white racist with a grain of salt? I THINK NOT! The same should hold true for black racists too.
Blacks can march all they want, I could care less. But to have any kind of affiliation with that man is plain wrong. A real man, black or white or whatever, should be at work, trying to support himself and his family and not marching on DC on a friggin weekday.
Farrakhan is a racist, there is no doubt about that. Prove to me he's not. And I said that those 10,000 black people there were morons. If calling those people morons is racist, then I guess I'm racist towards whites and probably every other ethnicity under the sun too.
And if you've ever read any of my posts my dear, you'd know I am no racist. I just don't like morons that's all. If you met my friends they'd tell you I'm not racist, they'd tell you that I call it like I see it. To throw the "racist" word around so casually is a very dangerous thing. You don't know me at all and yet you've called me stupid and racist. Have you always been so judgemental?
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dballer
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The Nature Boy said:
WELCOME TO THE CLUB NATURE!!!! IT FEELS GOOD DOESN"T IT!!!!!! FUCK THEM!!!!
the nature boy
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bump, I want to hear what strongchick has to say to the nature boy.
Nature Boy said it all...
Right on Nature Boy. I think you cleared it up and got to the main point of what strongchick is riding asses about.
Having an opinion or disliking a group because of their moronic opinions does not make one a racist. As Nature Boy stated, it doesn't matter if they're black, white, hispanic...whatever.
Farrakhan is a jackass...and I'm being nice.
Right on Nature Boy. I think you cleared it up and got to the main point of what strongchick is riding asses about.
Having an opinion or disliking a group because of their moronic opinions does not make one a racist. As Nature Boy stated, it doesn't matter if they're black, white, hispanic...whatever.
Farrakhan is a jackass...and I'm being nice.
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TheYork
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Lewis is a racist... he should be hung and burned.
strongchick
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: F*** Lewis Farrarkan
Hey -- I feel just as bad as any of us...I can't say I know how the victims feel because I wasn't physically there...only they know the true pain.
I sat on my front porch and cried uncontrollably right after I watched the first tower fall because I KNEW death arrived.
But I also KNEW...that my life and our lives have changed forever...not because of the deaths, but because of the realization that we are not invulnerable.
That our biggest downfall is our pride and our reliance on our material values for our fulfillment.
That we are never going to get out from under the weight of what is the American culture, because now we have a 'concrete' reason to be the same assholes we've always been.
That bin Laden (or whoever is doing this) is smarter than we are. No matter what mistakes he will make down the line, he outsmarted us enough to make us blind with rage.
Just like he wants.
And now we kill just like him.
Days of the Tantric said:
Hey -- I feel just as bad as any of us...I can't say I know how the victims feel because I wasn't physically there...only they know the true pain.
I sat on my front porch and cried uncontrollably right after I watched the first tower fall because I KNEW death arrived.
But I also KNEW...that my life and our lives have changed forever...not because of the deaths, but because of the realization that we are not invulnerable.
That our biggest downfall is our pride and our reliance on our material values for our fulfillment.
That we are never going to get out from under the weight of what is the American culture, because now we have a 'concrete' reason to be the same assholes we've always been.
That bin Laden (or whoever is doing this) is smarter than we are. No matter what mistakes he will make down the line, he outsmarted us enough to make us blind with rage.
Just like he wants.
And now we kill just like him.
Checkmatebloated
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strongchick said:
Why do the need to UNIT? I thought they wanted desegregation?? I'm confused.
Oh and Bin Laden has took claim for this so we need not show proof.
the nature boy
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: F*** Lewis Farrarkan
well what are we supposed to do with him then. let him walk the earth?
and you never addressed my comments. feel free to.
strongchick said:
well what are we supposed to do with him then. let him walk the earth?
and you never addressed my comments. feel free to.
strongchick
Well-known member
I think you miss the point of the march...it is not about Farrakhan or his beliefs. I don't follow Farrakhan, I am offended by him, but the idea behind the march is positive....
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/race_relations/october96/million_man_march_10-16.html
"MR. WILLIAMS: Well, you know, I was, Ms. Gault, opposed to the march because obviously I was misinformed, and I allowed my emotions to override common sense and just good judgment. And so I decided for myself to attend instead of listening to the media and listening to others, and, and I was just amazed at the love and the warmth and the respect; that sometimes what we forget, sometimes in our own world, is that there are a lot of people in pain, a lot of people are not as fortunate to have grown up with two parents, a strong mother and a strong father, a loving community, a loving home. And a lot of kids today, especially the younger generation, are being reared without a strong father in the home and sometime without a mother, and the thing is that people are looking for hope. They’re looking to find faith in this country again. "
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/race_relations/october96/million_man_march_10-16.html
"MR. WILLIAMS: Well, you know, I was, Ms. Gault, opposed to the march because obviously I was misinformed, and I allowed my emotions to override common sense and just good judgment. And so I decided for myself to attend instead of listening to the media and listening to others, and, and I was just amazed at the love and the warmth and the respect; that sometimes what we forget, sometimes in our own world, is that there are a lot of people in pain, a lot of people are not as fortunate to have grown up with two parents, a strong mother and a strong father, a loving community, a loving home. And a lot of kids today, especially the younger generation, are being reared without a strong father in the home and sometime without a mother, and the thing is that people are looking for hope. They’re looking to find faith in this country again. "
the nature boy
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strongchick said:
Hey I'm all for unity. But you never addressed my David Duke analogy. Would it be okay for a white man to march for "unity" if an event was sponsored by David Duke??????
strongchick
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The Nature Boy said:
yes.
It is okay for anyone in america to do anything they want as long as they don't harm others or infringe on others' rights.
I don't have to like it. You don't have to like the Million Man march. Blacks can be prejudiced just as whites.
The stated mission of a proposed David Duke march probably isn't in support of the community to improve the welfare of families, however.
strongchick
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spentagn said:
So the Million Man march is organized to 'kill whitey'. heehee.
strongchick
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Checkmatebloated said:
A lot of terrorists claim deeds they didn't do...I think Laden did it, but there is no proof...I want to see it before I completely support a war effort against a man and his backers.
Blacks feel the need to unite because they feel rejected by the majority in this society. On the one hand, we are told it is okay to be different (note the large numbers of successful entertainers).
On the other hand, we are told our differences are a liability.
I'm not the best one to talk about this subject...
...I was in the subway the other day and some ignorant black guy cut in front of me in line, so I looked him in the eye just before he proceeded and asked him why he did that. He proceeded to swear at me and walked away...what he said was personal....'fuck you' is not what i'm talking about...it was more like 'you better watch your elders you fuckin' bitch' .
So I was laughing inside....knowing that he is a victim of his own ignorance and one of those people that blame everyone else for his problems.
So I went down into the station, and he was walking slow, so I went right up to him face to face and I gave him the finger...calm and sarcastic like body language....no words. Like..'watcha gonna do now' body language.
He was really upset...so he went to the police and said...'yo officer..that white woman over there put her fingers in my face!'
I'm not white, but I have a very international look with fair skin...so he thought he would get a laugh and stick me with a complex about the fact that I'm 'not really black enough to be black' BS.
His screaming about me being a white woman and the police officers inaction caught the attention of his friends...who reminded him that I'm actually black..
...but the whites and blacks in the subway station laughed as I did, openly, at how ridiculous this scene was...I mean...my own people 'dis me! For no apparent reason, other than that it is obvious that I assimilate and identify with other cultures besides my own.
So...
please don't try to tell me about prejudice...I never feel quite at home with any group, really.
I hate everybody equally. People just suck.
strongchick
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2EZ2BRICH said:
I'm still trying to figure that one out...like...anyone who supports our points of view must be the same person....I think more of us are out here...has to be....not everyone is this deluded, ???
Louis Farrakhan is a hatred breeding crybaby slime-bag.If you listen to this guy long enough,he and Osama Bin Ladin take on some frighteningly similar characteristics in their spewed out hatred for America's policies and hatred towards people of certain races.He is nothing but a big-mouthed pile of bile.
VicTusDeuS
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This fuckhead came to a university in my town a few years ago talking ish about the evil white man and jews. Kill the waste of life, damn rag heads
the nature boy
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strongchick said:
2 points:
going to a rally doesn't cause unity. doing something positive for the community causes unity. Hell those black men at the rally could have spent the day volunteering instead of being at an event sponsored or affiliated with the nation of islam. Tell me if you think there is more unity in the black community after the so-called million man march.
and
I think you might be prejudiced. you called me stupid and a racist, which is not true. I hope you're not like that with everyone.
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JohnyJuice
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Blacks like him are one of the reasons why racism still exists towards blacks. And because many blacks act like animals. Its unfortunate.
spentagn said:
my apologies if you feel i may have violated some right of yours. but to adequately comment, i would think that one would have to do a little research or be involved with the issue and not read an article and all of a sudden you are an advocate of the subject matter.
i haven't gone to Brazil. yeah, i saw pics of the country and really appreciate the beautiful woman over there, but would you value any comment or opinion that i may have about that country ? do you get my point ?
Farrakhan and Duke, preach the same philosophy, yet it appears to me that people here are more inclined to go against Farrakhan, and not Duke. maybe you can explain why this is the case ? oh yeah, and the reparation issue, is o.k. for the indians and jews to ask for reparation ? there is a residual effect of what had taken place 400yrs ago. i'm wondering if you watch Real World on MTv, and saw the episode, where the white guy said his uncle will not hire blacks, because they are not educated as well as their white counterparts. he will not hire a black person, because of the color of skin. do you think this was a unique case ? i'm wondering why i didn;t see any post on this here.
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the nature boy
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2EZ2BRICH said:
look I have no problem with unity, but I have a problem with the dude who sponsored it.
What I can't have an opinon about this matter. I commented many times about david duke. I'm not a white supremacist. So I can't comment on him too because I don't participate in white supremacy?
the nature boy
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2EZ2BRICH said:
I've commented a few times on the david duke thread.
And I have a number of comments on this thread because strongchick and myself were debating. That's why this thread is so damn long.
please don't tell me you're implying some kind of racism here because this thread is about a black asshole and has more replies than the david duke thread (white asshole) that has fewer replies. If you're not then I apologize.
Nature Boy,
if you replied, then my comment was not directed at you iron brother.
also, I too am not a big fan of Mr. Farrakhan, nor the nation of islam. no disrespect to them of course, but live and let live. i can honestly say, that i don't know too many people in my circle who do. but it seems that when Mr. Farrakhan, speaks his views, that it is representative of what most African Amercians believe.
would it be fair for me to assume that white america, supports Mr. Duke's views ? can we say that all German's sided with Hitler ? i'd be willing to bet that your answer is No !
so with this in mind, why is it, that everytime Mr. Farrakhan, speaks or a poll is taken by people of color, that this is representative of the masses. going back to an earlier post where the Fox news channel did a study and about 70%, of the people of color agreed with racial profiling of Arabs. let me tell you bro, none of the people i know where questioned. but i wonder why they didn't poll white america. what was the agenda ?
do me a favor, ask a woman, who has just been raped, her thoughts on sentencing for convicted child molesters. ask someone who has just been shot in the head, there thoughts on gun control....do you get my point here ?
they posed this question to black america at a time when the emotions and tensions where extremely high. it Sucks living in NY now. you can't get a fair study under these circumstances, therefore, the test is biased. but know one here pointed this out, right away half the post where calling people of color: "Hypocrits"
i'm actually exhausted by this post and the Duke post. i am not trying to change anyones beliefs or thinkings. But if anyone is ever in NY, i don't care with the hell race, religion, cultural background or sexual orientation you come from, give me a holla, we can definitely hang out !
2ez2brich
if you replied, then my comment was not directed at you iron brother.
also, I too am not a big fan of Mr. Farrakhan, nor the nation of islam. no disrespect to them of course, but live and let live. i can honestly say, that i don't know too many people in my circle who do. but it seems that when Mr. Farrakhan, speaks his views, that it is representative of what most African Amercians believe.
would it be fair for me to assume that white america, supports Mr. Duke's views ? can we say that all German's sided with Hitler ? i'd be willing to bet that your answer is No !
so with this in mind, why is it, that everytime Mr. Farrakhan, speaks or a poll is taken by people of color, that this is representative of the masses. going back to an earlier post where the Fox news channel did a study and about 70%, of the people of color agreed with racial profiling of Arabs. let me tell you bro, none of the people i know where questioned. but i wonder why they didn't poll white america. what was the agenda ?
do me a favor, ask a woman, who has just been raped, her thoughts on sentencing for convicted child molesters. ask someone who has just been shot in the head, there thoughts on gun control....do you get my point here ?
they posed this question to black america at a time when the emotions and tensions where extremely high. it Sucks living in NY now. you can't get a fair study under these circumstances, therefore, the test is biased. but know one here pointed this out, right away half the post where calling people of color: "Hypocrits"
i'm actually exhausted by this post and the Duke post. i am not trying to change anyones beliefs or thinkings. But if anyone is ever in NY, i don't care with the hell race, religion, cultural background or sexual orientation you come from, give me a holla, we can definitely hang out !
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the nature boy
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I can see where you're coming from. I thought that after sept 11th race relations would get better. seems like it's just as bad ON BOTH ENDS. oh well.
I'm burned out on this thread and the duke thread also. let it sink to the bottom.
I'm burned out on this thread and the duke thread also. let it sink to the bottom.
2EZ2BRICH-My apologies,I forgot to mention David PUKE.He is every bit as big as a hatred breeding scum-bag as Farrakhan.I'm sorry bro,but whether it is some white guy hurling around the word niggers or some black guy hurling around 'crackers' or 'white-devil',they are all the same worthless pieces of racist shit.David Puke fits well into that category,and should have someone take a fucking bat to his racist head to knock some sense into his pea-sized brain.I don't play favorites,if you breed and condone hatred then you are a dirt-bag,plain and simple.Hatred is not confined to only one skin color,and it is directed at ALL skin colors.David Puke is a shining example of this filth.
The open letter by David Duke had some very salient points, and even though I strongly disagree with his racist leanings. Israel must stand on it own, should have been done a long time ago. Why we handed out over $3 billion last year alone is beyond me. What the hell is up with that? Shit give me $3 billion and I would at least have some thing to show the world that made it a better place to live in for ALL OF IT"S PEOPLE, what do we get for our money but a very unstable world which to live in? I have been sick of the hand outs to the Israeli Government for over thirty years, if they want to be a nation of peace then let them make it.
They will never have peace until we cut them off at the balls. Then and only then will they finally be forced to stand and deliver what they preach, PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST, probaly not in my lifetime though.....Until that day comes we will have nothing but unrest in the middle east. NO MORE MONEY FOR ISRAEL FROM THE USA. Do we see the israeli's offering aid to NYC? HELL NO WE DON'T.... Think about why that is and then you will get the idea that they are just financial maggots bleeding this country for everything they can get. Beleive me they don't give one flying shit about our national security. They are to damn busy laughing all the way to the bank.
They will never have peace until we cut them off at the balls. Then and only then will they finally be forced to stand and deliver what they preach, PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST, probaly not in my lifetime though.....Until that day comes we will have nothing but unrest in the middle east. NO MORE MONEY FOR ISRAEL FROM THE USA. Do we see the israeli's offering aid to NYC? HELL NO WE DON'T.... Think about why that is and then you will get the idea that they are just financial maggots bleeding this country for everything they can get. Beleive me they don't give one flying shit about our national security. They are to damn busy laughing all the way to the bank.
Photonic2 said:
Uh, you forgot to mention the 10 bil per year to Egypt we shell out.....and look at their people still just as poor as they were 10 years ago when we started giving them "aid".
And also Iran, Iraq, and a shitload of other countries in the M East. I wish I could ask our administration to offer up the amount of money they've given away over the last 20 years....of course they would lie, or attempt to justify it with some bullshit story......Nature boy said the same thing, we shouldn't have a vet or homeless person on any street in America. Our schools suck, our teachers are underpaid, but Bush wants to put a bandage on that problem. Pay the teachers, and we should have the best educational system, military, and homeland in the world. I HATE paying taxes because of these reasons.....not to mention welfare, SS, and the war on drugs.
spentagn
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2EZ2BRICH said:
none violated, just different opinions. I respect your opinion and your right to have it.
I respect the opinion, even if I don't agree with it.
Unfortuantely, people are more willing to respond to the Farrakhan issue than the Duke issue. It is most likely due to an inherent racism, whether we like to admit it or not.
No, it is not ok for any Jew or Native American (I presume this is what you meant by "indians") to demand reparations for actions that took place 400 years ago.
As far as MTV goes, I don't watch it. I've never been entertained by the Real World, I don't know why. I don't even like Survivor. But as far as the racist uncle, no, that is not uncommon. It is kind of like if I applied to be President of the NAACP. I imagine my race would be a major factor in that hiring process. I strongly advocate the equality of man, not of races. We will not be equal as long as we let race divide us, and people like Farrakhan and Dukes prohibit advancement in equality.
On a side note, the name is spentagn, not spentagon
strongchick
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The Nature Boy said:
That's a good question, actually. I really don't know...on the one hand, I see blacks as needing a stronger community because there are problems in the black community regarding assimilation of the dominant culture. Whites don't have this problem, because they ARE the dominant 'culture'.
I mean...most white folks know at least one businessman in their family or close family friend...even middle class blacks don't have connections to help them, so many of us stagnate with regard to finances and career.
Most of us forget that we need each other to help us out, and we take our connections for granted.
On the other hand, it would make me a hypocrite to not support white folks that want to march with David Duke...however...
....like I said earlier, I don't see white people as a whole needing to improve their community with regard to financial, career, and familial issues...this is not to say that ALL white folks don't need improvement in this regard...just that many more black folks have fewer connections...and therefore a Million Man march could fulfill the needs of people who don't even like Farrakhan.
To paraphrase Chris Rock ...he wouldn't ever make fun of Bill Cosby or Oprah Winfrey because these are two of the very few black folks with MONEY...why piss them off?
The point is, even a star like Chris Rock with the best connections compared to any of us here worries about maintaining those connections because he is black...
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strongchick said:
i hear what you're saying however I do have a problem with this paragraph.
I've you've ever been to rural parts of this country you'll know what I'm talking about. There is some major poverty in rural america. After there are more whites on welfare than blacks (granted the ratio of blacks on welfare is higher than whites).
I know it sounds cliche but you can do whatever you want in this country if you work hard enough. Look how many asian businesses there are in this country. Those people had to work for what they have.
Another example and some might agree or disagree. But have you ever seen hispanics begging for money? I haven't. I see whites and blacks all the time in DC begging for money. Hispanics work their asses off doing dirty work that nobody wants to do.
OK I'm done, hopefully this thread will drop because I'm burnt out on it.
strongchick
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The Nature Boy said:
I really get tired of hearing this one. It sounds like "Blacks must be lazy and stupid because other ethnic minorities make it just fine".
Well, we make it just fine, too. Only we don't have our 'own' country, with land, roots, or banks with big big money and international ties that lend to 'us'.
We can't build cooperatives to loan money to one another like Asians do, because as soon as we get together as in Million Man marches, folks call us prejudice. But when other races get together and screen out others, they are 'enterprising'.
It is all a double standard.
I agree that everyone has the opportunity...but just like a lot of my friends are unemployed while I am not ( I was recently laid off but found a job quickly)...I am employed because I have a few advantages.
One can't argue against the FACT that some people have advantages in life that others do not have, so it is definitely okay for blacks to get together and try to rectify this imbalance.
Fuck anybody who says this shouldn't be the case. You are wrong, and go to hell (nobody in particular here...just general fuck you).
spentagn
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How about underprivledged people get together to make their collective lives a little better? Why does it have to be black or Hispanic or white or Asian underprivledged people? When you can answer that one without damning me to hell I'll reconsider my stance on racial "enterprising."
hey strongchick go to africa so the white man can stop holding you and the other blacks down. Im sure if it wasnt for us whities damn u'd be a millionaire right now hell u'd be president. The asians had to work as hard if not harder then the blacks to become successful here so dont give me that shit you stupid liberal. Oh and you can get togeather with other blacks but u dont need to march down washington dc, i dont recall the asians doing that ever..
strongchick
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strongchick said:
Gorlim said:
This is the type of negative thinking that keeps our country stuck in stupid. a post like this allows prejudice to rise to the top. no matter how hard one tries to erase the color line, you will always have some knucklehead with his can of paint to refill in the lines. this thread started taking another tone. Thanks to Mr. Gorlim, with his go back to Mother Africa, we are right back where we started. a 360 degree circle.
That was brillant Mr Gorlim. thanks for the encouraging words !
strongchick
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Gorlim said:
Debating here gets really boring when you resort to this kind of gamesmanship...
instead of this comment, you should probably post exactly WHAT I said about Asians that 'set me up'. Then, reply with a coherent argument as to why blacks are supposedly less enterprising.
Instead, you give us this video game mentality, like I'm in some dark pixelated hallway, running out of 'lives', while you attack me with a super duper laser gun or some stupid shit.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!dballer said:
strongchick
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Gorlim said:
They don't want me there, either. I'm not African.
I'm some fucked up mix of black, indian, white, and latin.
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2EZ2BRICH said:
he is right you are wrong. how is happiness a measure of intelligence. you may argue that success can not be measured in dollars but with happiness but not intelligence. a retard can be very happy and a genius can be very miserable.
I would never march in any event that David Duke would sponser, how ever I am PROUD TO WHITE, no appologies needed. The white race has been slammed so bad that if anyone who did organize a white male march and even if it were done by striaght up citizens, the media dirt bags would make the marchers and organizers look like racists, WASP's are now a minority in many area's of the country and we are frequently dicriminated against in the job market because you can hire 4 mexicans to do the work over hiring one edjucated USA born citizen. That's NAFTA for you, putting you out of work so as to "level" the playing field between the USA and Mexico. We need to close our borders now, our government MUST change the immigration policies, this is how this whole terrorist shit got started.
Peace.
Peace.
MoneyBags said:
then why are you calling him/her a genius if he does not posess the mental to make himself happy....Hmmmmm ?
please explain retardation and while you are at that, maybe you can clear up autism for me.
One last thought for ya, does being detached from reality mean that you are mentally challenged or is this an area still open for observation ?
Gorlim said:
Hmmmm...that's a new one on me Mr. Gorlim. May you can explain to me exactly what this quote means: "ignorance is bliss"
also,
what is a genius and do you consider yourself to be one? if not, give examples please !
What is a retard and do fall into this category as well ? if not, please give examples !
Do you believe those whom are detached from reality, or self absorbed to be genuis' ?
How can one make themselves "look" stupid ?
It would be greatly appreciated if you were to answer these little questions for me. Oh yeah, Socratic Methods !
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