Extracting T-prop from pellets/estrogen

[Andy13]

Anyone with any real world expirience with this? I realize it's easier just to buy T-prop... Just curious.

I have my own extraction methods but i realize there used to be a "kit" for this... Anyone tried it?

 

[cockdezl]

Yes, it is not difficult, but may not remove all of the estrogen. The sensitivity of the user, towards estrogens, is the main concern.

The original ether extraction works well. Another way would be to hydrolyze the esters and then separate using a weak alkaline solution (the free estradiol should form a sodium salt, in low molar NaOH solution).

 

[Andy13]

But if you hydrolyzed the esters, the newly formed OH on the testosterone would ionize too, wouldnt it?

Actually, I was thinking about extracting several times with NaOH solution. That should ionize the estrogen and pull it into the water layer without hydrolyzing the ester.

 

[CONTRACTION]

Just use a Q45 space modulator.

 

[CONTRACTION]

Ok, bad joke...

 

[Andy13]

Hey Cockdezl- I know you can appreciate my sig. pic!!!!!

What do ya think? I don't know.. I certainly could think of better molecules to use but this was the most *interesting* one I could find..

 

[CYCLEON]

Andy the synovex conversion kit still exists - pretty simple for a fellow like u. "A" the fina kit man, still sells them - I believe that they use the hydrolisis method of removing the estrogen but I cant remember - email me if u need the info.

 

[cockdezl]

"But if you hydrolyzed the esters, the newly formed OH on the testosterone would ionize too, wouldnt it?

Actually, I was thinking about extracting several times with NaOH solution. That should ionize the estrogen and pull it into the water layer without hydrolyzing the ester."

Yes, but does not confer the solubility that the two OH's on estradiol does. MERCK supports this also.

 

[Andy13]

I can't see how hydrolosis is beneficial... The ester is what makes the two seperable... Otherwise you would ionize the test along with the estrogen and they would both get pulled into the water layer..

 

[cockdezl]

Testosterone is not soluble in an alkaline solution, estradiol is. I found the extraction idea in an old organic chem text, and the MERCK supports the idea.

Bill Roberts stated that the estradiol may actually form micelles in the water, but the testosterone will remain a crystal.

 

[CYCLEON]

"A" is a sneaky one isnt he??