Experts on HPTA...?????

[FOZY]

If a long term AAS user was to run into a problem with their HPTA how exactly would the blood work come back.

For example: say Haywwod Jablowme does a 2 year cycle and does perment damage to his HPTA and results in permanently Low Test levels. ( Make up your own 2 year cycle to fit in, incase someone asks what was his cycle)

1. Would the Low test levels be causes by low LH/FSH output ?? and if LH/FSH out output is not the case is there any other mechanisms in which HPTA can be damaged by AAS

What I mean is.......can someone have low test levels after long term AAS use and still have a normal functioning LH/FSH levels ? ?

3.If someone did have Low T -levels and did have a normal functioning LH level what could be the cause of suppression if testicle and prolactin problems are ruled out. ??

Can some of us just produce to much estrogen countering testosterone output????

2. How bad is sperm count really depleted after use of AAS?? I know sperm count is damaged every time one uses AAS but to what degree is this damage ???

Just curious I am by no means a long term user (2 cycles) but these questions are bugging the hell out of me so if someone could shed some light on the issue I would be very appreciative

foz

 

[OXANDRIN]

the more you damage your body the longer it takes to recover....people who do heavy steroid use for many years may never have normal functions ever again

 

[FOZY]

thanks for the reply Oxandrin and I understand your point fully, but I nead spacific answers to the questions I posted ........

I hope huck or Zyg is out there today

 

[FOZY]

anyone???

 

[DrJMW]

One can develop resistence to LH/FSH. In other words, say a patient takes Clomid, but his Test levels don't increase--this patient may be resistant to the LH/FSH stimulation. Second, testicular atrophy may occur because of the negative feedback from the AAS cycle. The testes, no matter what, cannot make any Test. Test conversion to estrogen is a problem in the aging, overweight (fat) individual.

To summarize, resistance to LH/FSH stimulation is a potential problem. Testicular atrophy because of negative feedback is another. Both conditions can be permanent.

 

[FOZY]

One can develop resistence to LH/FSH. In other words, say a patient takes Clomid, but his Test levels don't increase--this patient may be resistant to the LH/FSH stimulationl.

You are saying that a person would be LH/FSH resistent period. And not JUST resistant to the Stimulation through drugs.

In the above scenerio his LH/FSH are completely normal.........just low T levels..

Amd if you are saying that someone can become resitant to LH/FSH how does this resistantse develope ? ?

 

[Bar Room Hero]

I'm sure Zyg the mad scientist will have an answer to your question.

 

[LONE_AZ]

As for the sperm count. It takes 90 days for the little buggers to mature. So you can count on the being low as much as 90- days out untill you hormons are normal if they get to normal. If your test is low so it goes so will your sperm count in most cases so you may need a little help.

 

[FOZY]

but if FSH/LH are normal and T is low i would suspect sperm production would be fine...right ????? Since these signals are responsabel for signiling sperm production
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