Ester question

[Juice Authority]

I been using a product called Supra 425 (300mg's of enan and 125mg's of Prop)/ml. Cyp and Enan are both long acting esters and Prop is a fast acting ester. By combining Prop and Enan or Prop and Cyp wouldn't you have to increase the frequency of your injections given the short half-life of Prop?

 

[Diabolical]

to take advantage of the prop, yes.
Many people dont though with similiar mixes like sust.
I would definitely go eod with it.

 

[panerai]

So, Propionate is a waste if not injected eod?

 

[Juice Authority]

What I ended up doing was mixing the Supra with Tren in a 50cc jug and taking ed injections. That way I get the Prop and Tren in the system ed.

 

[panerai]

What I ended up doing was mixing the Supra with Tren in a 50cc jug and taking ed injections. That way I get the Prop and Tren in the system ed.

Great idea!

 

[Diabolical]

So, Propionate is a waste if not injected eod?

Not a complete waste, but it would definitely be better to go ed or eod. JMO

 

[panerai]

Not a complete waste, but it would definitely be better to go ed or eod. JMO

It applies to any ester.

 

[Citruscide]

Hmmm.... I'd do prop every 3 or so days... as it's half-life is around 4-5 days... that way you always have freshness in your system... ed/eod is not necessary IMO.

C-ditty

 

[Juice Authority]

Hmmm.... I'd do prop every 3 or so days... as it's half-life is around 4-5 days... that way you always have freshness in your system... ed/eod is not necessary IMO.

C-ditty

The time release of Prop is strongest and most active in the body within the first 24 hours, really within the first 12 hrs. The release after that is minimal unless your megadosing.

 

[Citruscide]

The time release of Prop is strongest and most active in the body within the first 24 hours, really within the first 12 hrs. The release after that is minimal unless your megadosing.

Is there any other way than megadosing???

I think I use around 200mg every 3 days...

C-ditty

 

[Andy13]

Both esters contribute to the same blood testosterone level...

Both esters will PEAK in max testosterone inside 24hrs.. Injecting once a week is NOT "wasting" the prop.. When a shorter ester is combined with a longer ester, as in this case, the over-all effect will be to even-out differences in half-lives... meaning, if you inject the same amounts of a 2-day half-life ester and an 8-day half life ester, it will essentially amount to the same as a 5-day half life single ester.


But in this case, enanthate amounts to more than half of the total mixture... The over-all effect becomes, essentially, a testosterone with a half life a little shorter than enanthate...

Andy

 

[Juice Authority]

Both esters contribute to the same blood testosterone level...

Both esters will PEAK in max testosterone inside 24hrs.. Injecting once a week is NOT "wasting" the prop.. When a shorter ester is combined with a longer ester, as in this case, the over-all effect will be to even-out differences in half-lives... meaning, if you inject the same amounts of a 2-day half-life ester and an 8-day half life ester, it will essentially amount to the same as a 5-day half life single ester.


But in this case, enanthate amounts to more than half of the total mixture... The over-all effect becomes, essentially, a testosterone with a half life a little shorter than enanthate...

Andy

That's interesting. I honestly didn't know that. My understanding from what you're saying is that by mixing the two (Prop and Enan) the half-life for Prop is extended and the half-life of Enan is reduced so the net result is offsetting?? What happens to the half-life of Prop and Enan once it's mixed with Tren?

 

[panerai]

By mixing Prop and Enan you don't change half lives, you get higher amount of testosteron initially released into blood, that's all. Mixing with Tren will not change anything about half lives neither, and it won't effect amount of test released, testosteron and trenbolone are different androgens.

 

[jubei]

Yeah, I fucked ester but then she never called again.

 

[panerai]

Yeah, I fucked ester but then she never called again.

loser

 

[jubei]

Hey

Fuck off

 

[Juice Authority]

Hey

Fuck off

Come on dude, keep this shit off my thread. I'd really like to get some accurate feedback here. Thanks...

 

[jubei]

That is very similar to ara-test which is 50mg prop and 200mg enanthate. If you want to make the most use of the prop it should be injected every 2 or at most 3 days.

 

[Juice Authority]

That is very similar to ara-test which is 50mg prop and 200mg enanthate. If you want to make the most use of the prop it should be injected every 2 or at most 3 days.

I haven't heard anything good about Ara-test in a couple of years. This product has gone completely downhill and is mostly faked these days.

 

[Juice Authority]

The more I read about blends the more I hate 'em. It seems like it would make more sense if they increase the proportion of the short-acting esters. That way you could shoot EOD and consider the long esters just a bonus. By mixing them in the proportions they do it seems to me a "jack of all trades, master of none" situation.

That's exactly my concern and the reason I started this thread.