Epistane for a lean cycle?

[tha_Waco_kid]

First off - what is the difference between the two Epi's on Need2's site? Max vs 60?

33yo
6'2
220
13% bf
Havn't run AAS in over 10 years (2 cycles)

Planning a cycle of sarms and a PH. I have beast on hand but I'm not sure I want to go there (yet) due to sides, so I"m thinking of running epistane as I have read it is great for a lean cycle while putting on some strenght and a few lbs. I would like to really cut hard during this time so even if it is just anti catabolic it would be worth while.

I am not sure on a few of the below as far as dosing, and if certain products work well together, but that is why I'm asking! I'll take a shot at it below - be gentle

Looking forward to your replies thanks bros!

Thinking this:

1-6 Osta 25mg
1-6 GW 10mg
1-6 Transaderm 5-7 pumps
1-6 Epi ????
3-6 Albuterol - 18mg per day
3-6 T3 - 25 up to 50mcg per day
1-6 HCGenerate

PCT: 6 weeks

unleashed/PC
CLomid ????
T3 PCT from Need2
DAA 3g am/pm per day

I know I will get mixed reviews on the T3 but I have used it before with great results and my Thyroid levels are fine. It would be a smaller dose for about 4 weeks. If I run this cycle i'll definitely do bloods before and after.

 

[Mekat]

good setup bro, the diff between those two is that epi 60 is, epistane 20mg a cap, and epi max is, max lmg 20mg and epi 15mg a cap..

u can run the epi 40/40/60/60/80/80 depending on how much u have but that setup is exactly 126 caps so ull be left over with 54 caps from 2 bottles

..if u only have 1 bottle u can run 40 the whole way.. ur choice really, or u can pick up 3 bottles and have enough for 2 cycles..

the clomid u can do 25/25/25/25...forma-stanzol is really good to have for pct too..

and the osta would be better for pct also

 

[tha_Waco_kid]

Oh yeah forma - I have that also I just forgot to list it. Probably start 2-3 weeks prior to pct and run through the end

Would I need something line n2 guard for this run?

Also - I'm curious about the sarms in this set up. Are they overkill or do they fit in well with the other products? Love the GW for the endurance for killer workouts and cardio.

 

[Mekat]

o shit i forgot u didnt have that listed, yea N2Guard is a must for any oral, it got u covered on all bases

the sarms are awesome, ima be running almost the same setup u have with the addition of katana, with GW on cycle and Osta in PCT

 

[nickb86]

run the osta in pct at 12.5mg ed and then bump it up to 25mgas soon as pct is over, you cycle plan is quite good and you got most things right so well done.
run your pct like this imo:
clomid 25/25/25/25
forma stanzol
unleashed/postcycle
daa
osta sarm 12.5mg a day
T3 if you like it.

 

[tha_Waco_kid]

o shit i forgot u didnt have that listed, yea N2Guard is a must for any oral, it got u covered on all bases

the sarms are awesome, ima be running almost the same setup u have with the addition of katana, with GW on cycle and Osta in PCT

THanks - figured N2 guard was should be in there...I was gonna run it anyway, just to be safe...better safe than sorry.

oooooo Katana.....That sounds like a nice add maybe I should think about that also. I could pick up some V3. How would you recommend dosing the Katana V3 if I added it to the above?

Thanks!

 

[Mekat]

it depends on ur budget bro, if u take 2 a day a bottle will last u 30 days, u can take 2, 3, 4...up to u.. its not methyl so not much risk involved..

i decided to add it because all of the loggers are noticing a nice increase in endurance, and my whole training style has shifted to endurance stamina and strength..

 

[Gorilla-Pharma]

Real well laid out bro.

First off - what is the difference between the two Epi's on Need2's site? Max vs 60?

33yo
6'2
220
13% bf
Havn't run AAS in over 10 years (2 cycles)

Planning a cycle of sarms and a PH. I have beast on hand but I'm not sure I want to go there (yet) due to sides, so I"m thinking of running epistane as I have read it is great for a lean cycle while putting on some strenght and a few lbs. I would like to really cut hard during this time so even if it is just anti catabolic it would be worth while.

I am not sure on a few of the below as far as dosing, and if certain products work well together, but that is why I'm asking! I'll take a shot at it below - be gentle

Looking forward to your replies thanks bros!

Thinking this:

1-6 Osta 25mg
1-6 GW 10mg
1-6 Transaderm 5-7 pumps
1-6 Epi ????
3-6 Albuterol - 18mg per day
3-6 T3 - 25 up to 50mcg per day
1-6 HCGenerate

PCT: 6 weeks

unleashed/PC
CLomid ????
T3 PCT from Need2
DAA 3g am/pm per day

I know I will get mixed reviews on the T3 but I have used it before with great results and my Thyroid levels are fine. It would be a smaller dose for about 4 weeks. If I run this cycle i'll definitely do bloods before and after.

 

[RickRock13]

I actually wouldn't go over 60mg of EPI myself. Your joints will be dry as fuck and hurt like hell even at 60 if ran very long. I've ran EPI multiple times and the sweet spot is 50-60mg IMO, and you don't need to go higher or you could be seriously inviting injury

 

[mstiles87]

I actually wouldn't go over 60mg of EPI myself. Your joints will be dry as fuck and hurt like hell even at 60 if ran very long. I've ran EPI multiple times and the sweet spot is 50-60mg IMO, and you don't need to go higher or you could be seriously inviting injury

Not to mention increasing chance for rebound gyno going over 60

 

[Gorilla-Pharma]

Not to mention increasing chance for rebound gyno going over 60

Ya, I've ran it many times as well....all at at 60mg

 

[dylangemelli]

First off - what is the difference between the two Epi's on Need2's site? Max vs 60?

33yo
6'2
220
13% bf
Havn't run AAS in over 10 years (2 cycles)

Planning a cycle of sarms and a PH. I have beast on hand but I'm not sure I want to go there (yet) due to sides, so I"m thinking of running epistane as I have read it is great for a lean cycle while putting on some strenght and a few lbs. I would like to really cut hard during this time so even if it is just anti catabolic it would be worth while.

I am not sure on a few of the below as far as dosing, and if certain products work well together, but that is why I'm asking! I'll take a shot at it below - be gentle

Looking forward to your replies thanks bros!

Thinking this:

1-6 Osta 25mg
1-6 GW 10mg
1-6 Transaderm 5-7 pumps
1-6 Epi ????
3-6 Albuterol - 18mg per day
3-6 T3 - 25 up to 50mcg per day
1-6 HCGenerate

PCT: 6 weeks

unleashed/PC
CLomid ????
T3 PCT from Need2
DAA 3g am/pm per day

I know I will get mixed reviews on the T3 but I have used it before with great results and my Thyroid levels are fine. It would be a smaller dose for about 4 weeks. If I run this cycle i'll definitely do bloods before and after.

you are fine to run sarms on cycle but you will see better results if you just run epi and katana and then run sarms as a bridge after in between cycles... and please do yourself a favor and get rid of t3... its muscle eating trash...

run katana v3 at 6 caps a day with epi... save the sarms and albuterol for after you complete pct... you can run transaderm if you like but if your after the leanest cycle you can get then i would just run epi and katana... definitely run n2guard and hcgenerate... start forma week 3 and run it through pct...

pct


clomid 25/25/25/25 chemicalneed.com
Unleashed/post cycle combo
forma stanzol mrsupps.com
daa powerchews or powder

optional
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ i agree with dylan you have no reason to run T3..

if anything swap in GW instead, or speed up your workouts.. 90 seconds tops between sets. you will get a good heart workout ... pop some n2burn in the morning to speed up metabolism during the day and you will be golden.

uniquemicals has a good deal on GW, chemical need covers your ancillaries