Epi-strong sides....

[supreme]

Hey Bro's,

Decided to use only Needto products (at least for the 1st half) of cycle- just to see what an all oral cycle would be like.

2 week kickstart SUCKED!!! - Don't get me wrong, Beast & Diesel got me about 8 lean pounds in 2 weeks but the sides..... (all were from Beast, Ran Diesel 4 caps per day in spring - NO sides)

Side were: increased HR & BP - (back down now), insomnia, nausea, especially during workout, HEADACHES!!! Large, painful acne on back (slowly going away)!!

Now switched to Diesel (3X) & Epi-strong (2X), still have some headaches, no appetite,*** numbness & tingling in hands almost all day long - really don't like this - any ideas of what is going on, what to take?

The numbness & tingling is very similar to the symptoms one would get with high HGH use (currently NOT using any GH or peptides)

would love any input - do you get used to the sides, do they lessen over time??

S

 

[makatk007]

Everyone reacts differently bro bottomline. Water for headaches may work. You taking something for liver kidney's cholesterol levels? It may go away with time, but it may also stick until cycle is complete.

 

[SouthernLord]

That's a heavy cycle bro. What did you expect? Most guys blow up on only 30mg of phera ed. Your pushing it imo.

I really hope you're taking support supps and pct serious.

 

[BigNickp]

I've used SD and M-Drol which I think are the same as Beast. I had nausa bad post workout always had minor flu like symptoms and felt like I was suffering from depression. The GAINS are amazing though, visible changes in my body especially traps and shoulders by the 2nd week at only 20mg per day.

Are there any orals that don't cause depression and work?

 

[supreme]

Thanks for the replies,

Just to clear things up - Totally off Beast right now and only taking 3 diesel / day & 2 Epi- strong per day- total, so this is still heavy but not CRAZY!!! Like I said I have run 4 Diesel per day - no sides except SIZE & STRENGTH!!!

I am taking lots of Forged liver (but not overdosing) Vitex, some extra milk thistle, Fish oil, vitamins, B-5, hawthorn, cranberry, Toco 8, and melatonin at bedtime.

My H20 intake is always high: 3 -5 liters /day minimum, I don't drink coffee, soda, juice - occasional teas and fresh squeezed juice but that is rare (too lazy)

Just not getting the "Alpha" feeling and the numbness / tingling SUCKS!!!

Any ideas??

Thanks!

S

Oh, and PCT will be Eric at PP protocol with HCG, Nolva, TRS and some forged PCT and SARM 4