Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Does anyone do this? I admit I'm new to this stuff but it seems like it would be a good idea since high levels of circulating estrogen seems to make hpta recovery that much more difficult. For example, I'm planning a second cycle out and I was thinking 350mg Test Prop and 350mg Masteron Prop weeks 1-6 and then 700 mg Mast Prop only during weeks 7 & 8. Just curious if people think this is a good idea as opposed to adding in AI's.
Ending Cycles with Dry Steroids Only?
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First things first. We need stats before advice is given bro
33 years old. 208 lbs at around 10 percent BF. I don't train as a bodybuilder. I box and do powerlifting/oly lifting-in other words I'm not interested in size but rather a high strength to weight ratio.
I'm now in PCT from my first cycle which was 350mg Primo and 350mg Masteron per week. I got great results from this cycle-added 150lbs total to the Bench, Squat, and DL in just 8 weeks which after checking my logs is more than I've added in the last three years. The only noticeable side effects were some oily skin and a slight decrease in testicle size which corrected itself after a few amps of HMG.
I'm only considering switching things up for the next cycle for the sake of experimentation. I want to keep things as side effect free as this one was and was curious if my idea to cut out the test a few weeks before starting PCT had any merit. Thanks.
I'm now in PCT from my first cycle which was 350mg Primo and 350mg Masteron per week. I got great results from this cycle-added 150lbs total to the Bench, Squat, and DL in just 8 weeks which after checking my logs is more than I've added in the last three years. The only noticeable side effects were some oily skin and a slight decrease in testicle size which corrected itself after a few amps of HMG.
I'm only considering switching things up for the next cycle for the sake of experimentation. I want to keep things as side effect free as this one was and was curious if my idea to cut out the test a few weeks before starting PCT had any merit. Thanks.
That doesn't really answer my question. Why do I have to run the TP for at least 8 weeks?
you have a valid point.. however I always tell guys don't go into pct with high estrogen or raisin nuts. thats why running the proper ancillaries on cycle are so important. in your case just run an AI correctly and you will have the estrogen problem covered, and of course run a PCT.
that cycle would work fine.. it does take prop a couple weeks to reach peak levels though so cutting it short at 6 weeks is leaving gains on the table but thats fine since its only your 2nd cycle.
also keep in mind masteron does combat estrogen as it is. I can't point you to 'studies' or evidence but its well known in the AAS community that it will... if you want to get color on your situation just run a blood test during cycle and see where your estradiol is at.
and of course to combat raisin nuts you should run hcgenerate on cycle or atleast hcg towards the end along with your HMG
guys who run a cycle ahead of a competition will run dry steroids and masteron is a favorite.. however being dry like that can have adverse effects like dry joints, and the dryness will go away once the mast is out of your system so its temporary anyway.
that cycle would work fine.. it does take prop a couple weeks to reach peak levels though so cutting it short at 6 weeks is leaving gains on the table but thats fine since its only your 2nd cycle.
also keep in mind masteron does combat estrogen as it is. I can't point you to 'studies' or evidence but its well known in the AAS community that it will... if you want to get color on your situation just run a blood test during cycle and see where your estradiol is at.
and of course to combat raisin nuts you should run hcgenerate on cycle or atleast hcg towards the end along with your HMG
guys who run a cycle ahead of a competition will run dry steroids and masteron is a favorite.. however being dry like that can have adverse effects like dry joints, and the dryness will go away once the mast is out of your system so its temporary anyway.
Thanks for the response. The main reason I'm considering this is because I'd like to use as few drugs as possible. This isn't me being cheap it's just that I feel like every pharmaceutical you put in your body has the potential to cause some adverse downstream reaction and if I can avoid that by using moderate dosages and wise planning I'd prefer to go that route. It probably seems hypocritical for someone using steroids to say that but I guess it is what it is.
As of now, the only ancillaries I'm comfortable using are HCG/HMG as well as a bunch of over the counter supplements that I've been using. That's the route I went with this last cycle and I have to say I feel excellent in the gym and the bedroom and I'm two weeks into PCT.
I'm still kind of hesitant to play with Test because I feel it's gonna be harder to come back from than the mast/primo cycle I just finished but I've got to see for myself what it's all about before I decide to never use it. I will keep an AI on hand just in case but in all likelihood if I did get the itchy nips I'd probably just lower the dosage of test and up the masteron. Thanks again.
