If you ask 10 dif. people, you'll likely get 10 dif. responses. So here's mine. If this is your first cycle, run the sus by itself for 10 wks. @250/wk. If you've never done a cycle this will be plenty bro. I can assure you. It's your diet that will make the difference. Keep the calories high and you'll gain alot. No need for stacking just yet. If it's not your first or you just want to them both anyway run it like this. sus@250-500/wk. for 10wks. and deca@300/wk. for 8-9wks. No pyramiding up or down. Run those doses throughout. Mix the sus and deca together in the same shot. Poke twice a wk.(say mon. and thurs.). Alot of guys like sus EOD but to me there's not that much fast acting ester to really matter. Twice a wk. should be fine. Good luck.