Ecdysterone use

[PILEDRIVER3]

Has anyone used 20-hydroxyecdysterone (a saponin found in numerous plants) during a cycle? I did and noticed what seemed to be better gains than what could be acheived without this saponin. I have used ecdysterone without AAS, but did not notice any gains. I am just curious if it is possible that this substance builds muscle only when combined with some other myogenic substance. GH can"t build much muscle without AAS, this is what fuels my speculation.

 

[geoboy]

the hype sounded great when they were re-introduced a few years ago as plant GH instead of what they are (insect molting hormones. ewww.).

I tried off-cycle and saw nothing as well. never tried on cycle.

heres an interesting article with some source cites.
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Field/4992/hk06974.html
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[PILEDRIVER3]

This article seems a bit dated, but the info is pretty good. Currently there are very powerful ecdysterone extracts available. Even if ecdysterone is unable to stimulate one ounce of muscle the positive effects the substance has on the liver and cholesterol synthesis might make it's use worth while on-cycle. I hope others post with their experiences.