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ricorico

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these last few weeks ive been cycleing between 2 weeks of clen and 2 weeks of ECA, and im finding that the ECA is way more productive as far as fat loss goes due to its ability to destroy your appetite....in a week im supposed to be starting back up on the clen, the question is, would it be a bad idea to take lets say just 1 or 2 doses of ECA while on the clen to help with the food cravings???....i know the side effects of such a stack would be too much for some ppl, but neither 3 doses of ECA (25mgs/200mgs/325mgs) or 120mcgs of clen gives me any sides at all...i guess im just wondering is beyond the side effects if there is anyother reason to not stack the 2
 
ricorico said:
these last few weeks ive been cycleing between 2 weeks of clen and 2 weeks of ECA, and im finding that the ECA is way more productive as far as fat loss goes due to its ability to destroy your appetite....in a week im supposed to be starting back up on the clen, the question is, would it be a bad idea to take lets say just 1 or 2 doses of ECA while on the clen to help with the food cravings???....i know the side effects of such a stack would be too much for some ppl, but neither 3 doses of ECA (25mgs/200mgs/325mgs) or 120mcgs of clen gives me any sides at all...i guess im just wondering is beyond the side effects if there is anyother reason to not stack the 2

Clen and ephedrine are 'cousins'. I suggest cycling the 2, not stacking them. If you need something to control your appetite, go with 5-HTP along with a change in your diet - like adding fiber, flaxseed etc...
 
ricorico said:
these last few weeks ive been cycleing between 2 weeks of clen and 2 weeks of ECA, and im finding that the ECA is way more productive as far as fat loss goes due to its ability to destroy your appetite....in a week im supposed to be starting back up on the clen, the question is, would it be a bad idea to take lets say just 1 or 2 doses of ECA while on the clen to help with the food cravings???....i know the side effects of such a stack would be too much for some ppl, but neither 3 doses of ECA (25mgs/200mgs/325mgs) or 120mcgs of clen gives me any sides at all...i guess im just wondering is beyond the side effects if there is anyother reason to not stack the 2

hmm..i wouldnt recommend it...I know i get some seriouse sides from clen, couldnt imagine adding ECA on the days i was doing the clen...I know you said you dont but sometimes you really dont know what else is going on in your system with that many stimulants..
 
I honestly kinda like the hunger pains I get while on Clen. It lets me know my body is searchin for fuel heh. :chomp: :chomp: :chomp:
 
Mr.X said:
Clen and ephedrine are 'cousins'. I suggest cycling the 2, not stacking them. If you need something to control your appetite, go with 5-HTP along with a change in your diet - like adding fiber, flaxseed etc...
what is 5-HTP???..can i get it at a gnc type store??
 
bigmouth2006 said:
i know alot of people that say the eca is better than clen. what kind are you using(clen)?
im thinkin ECA might be better for fat loss , but i would def recommend clen for PCT over ECA....the clen i have is 40mcg tabs and says "Hubei Huangshi Nanshang CO. Ltd" on the back of the blister packs
 
ricorico said:
im thinkin ECA might be better for fat loss , but i would def recommend clen for PCT over ECA....the clen i have is 40mcg tabs and says "Hubei Huangshi Nanshang CO. Ltd" on the back of the blister packs

those are the only ones i will take
 
well im on the 2 weeks off right now....but i was taking 120mcgs a day......split in 3 doses about 4 hours apart from each other, usually wouldnt take em after 330 or 4
 
Wow, seems like Every week I'm posting this..... The reason you aren't feeling the effects is cause youre NEVER coming off Beta 2 drugs..... Clen is a Beta 2 drug, and so is ECA, so of course youre not feeling the effects of Clen.... Difference is, ECA hits OTHER receptors besides the Clen, which results in loss of appetite, increased HR, and other effects.... So, it feels like the ECA is working better..... If you cycle the Clen for 2 weeks, then use a Non Beta 2 fatburner the next 2 weeks (Trex or Stimulant X are great choices), you will feel the Clen on the next cycle..... I've been doing it for 6 weeks now, trust me, it works great.... Somehow, it was passed down to use Clen for 2 weeks, then ECA for 2 weeks, but that is just WRONG..... Youre not allowing the receptors time to clear out, which you need for Clen to be effective the next time you use it, so the cycle is not gonna work for ya..... You gotta realize that Clen doesn't just affect the Beta 2 receptor, it DESTROYS it..... This is the whole reason you need to come off Clen for 2 weeks.... If not, you could just keep taking Clen for weeks and weeks, but that doesn't work, cause you need the Beta 2 receptor to lose fat with Clen..... Now ECA doesn't DESTROY the Beta 2 like Clen does, but it does affect it..... So, if you think about it.... You just did 2 weeks of Clen at 200mcg's per day, YOURE BETA 2's are DESTROYED..... You start using ECA, which doesn't hit the receptors as hard, but hard enough to not allow them time to grow back like you need to.... DOes that make sense? YOure not the only person, I see this post every week now, and I have to post this info every week, but still people don't seem to believe me...... Just try it once, and you'll see what I'm talking about.....

rizz
 
Prizz said:
Wow, seems like Every week I'm posting this..... The reason you aren't feeling the effects is cause youre NEVER coming off Beta 2 drugs..... Clen is a Beta 2 drug, and so is ECA, so of course youre not feeling the effects of Clen.... Difference is, ECA hits OTHER receptors besides the Clen, which results in loss of appetite, increased HR, and other effects.... So, it feels like the ECA is working better..... If you cycle the Clen for 2 weeks, then use a Non Beta 2 fatburner the next 2 weeks (Trex or Stimulant X are great choices), you will feel the Clen on the next cycle..... I've been doing it for 6 weeks now, trust me, it works great.... Somehow, it was passed down to use Clen for 2 weeks, then ECA for 2 weeks, but that is just WRONG..... Youre not allowing the receptors time to clear out, which you need for Clen to be effective the next time you use it, so the cycle is not gonna work for ya..... You gotta realize that Clen doesn't just affect the Beta 2 receptor, it DESTROYS it..... This is the whole reason you need to come off Clen for 2 weeks.... If not, you could just keep taking Clen for weeks and weeks, but that doesn't work, cause you need the Beta 2 receptor to lose fat with Clen..... Now ECA doesn't DESTROY the Beta 2 like Clen does, but it does affect it..... So, if you think about it.... You just did 2 weeks of Clen at 200mcg's per day, YOURE BETA 2's are DESTROYED..... You start using ECA, which doesn't hit the receptors as hard, but hard enough to not allow them time to grow back like you need to.... DOes that make sense? YOure not the only person, I see this post every week now, and I have to post this info every week, but still people don't seem to believe me...... Just try it once, and you'll see what I'm talking about.....

rizz
yea, i know....i probably shouldve mentioned that after the 2 weeks of ECA i was gonna take 5-8 days off totally
 
ricorico said:
yea, i know....i probably shouldve mentioned that after the 2 weeks of ECA i was gonna take 5-8 days off totally


Well, ECA you can use for a long time, that's why some guys like it so much.... Plus it curbs the appetite like a Mofo..... I can usually use ECA for about 2-3mths before I feel the effects stop, then i come off for 4 weeks.... If you do the Clen cycles like I said, the results are 2nd to none.... Burns fat like crazy....

rizz
 
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