ECA Beats Clen....

[Prizz]

Ok, I've just completed my 8th week of using Clen..... What I mean is that I used Clen 2 weeks, then ECA 2 weeks, Clen 2 weeks again, then ECA 2 weeks again..... The 1st 2 week Clen cycle was very impressive, I lost 2 inches off the waist in just those 2 weeks.... However, the ECA proved to give me better results.... In the following 2 week ECA cycle, I lost 3 inches off the waist.... Started Clen again, and I must say I didn't lose any size off the waist in those 2 weeks.... I did lose 2lbs, so fat prob came off from other places on my body, but waist size stayed the same.... The last ECA 2 week cycle, I lost an additional 1.5inches off the waist....

Some observations: Clen didn't decrease my appetite at all, where ECA kills it almost entirely.... I'm a damn good dieter, so no matter how hungry I am, I don't cheat, so that isn't the reason for the lack of loss.... However, with Clen and being hungry, I did tend to eat a few extra calories (good ones of course) here and there, where with ECA I didn't..... That could be the reason for more loss while on ECA.... Also, I'm not convinced that 2 weeks off of Clen is enough for it to be effective again 2 weeks later.... Not only that, ECA is a beta 2 drug also, so maybe the receptors didn't clear out enough for the Clen to become as effective the next 2 week cycle....? Maybe I would have been better using Trex for the 2 weeks off of Clen....

Anyway, I don't have any real motive with this post.... I just wanted to post my progress, and let you guys know what worked for me, and what didn't.... I still think Clen is a great drug, and I will use it again for sure.... However, I think next time I will use Trex over ECA for the 2 weeks off of Clen in a 2weeks on/2 weeks off cycle.... later

rizz

 

[RaoulDuke..]

I know ECA has similar function to clen, but is it safe to say that clen is more dangerous, or has more risks?

 

[crunkjuice]

I dont know guys, ephedrine messes with me way more then even high dose clen does...I used to take lots of ephedrine and ended up having weird pissing problems and stuff that was very bothersome and let to my entire discontinuation of taking the drug, this was about a year before they banned it I quit taking it...thinking about trying it again but I dont know clen just doesnt seem as harsh to me... anyone else agree?

 

[Prizz]

I dont know guys, ephedrine messes with me way more then even high dose clen does...I used to take lots of ephedrine and ended up having weird pissing problems and stuff that was very bothersome and let to my entire discontinuation of taking the drug, this was about a year before they banned it I quit taking it...thinking about trying it again but I dont know clen just doesnt seem as harsh to me... anyone else agree?

How much were you using per day? I hardly get any sides from ephedrine...

rizz

 

[hankes64]

I dont know guys, ephedrine messes with me way more then even high dose clen does...I used to take lots of ephedrine and ended up having weird pissing problems and stuff that was very bothersome and let to my entire discontinuation of taking the drug, this was about a year before they banned it I quit taking it...thinking about trying it again but I dont know clen just doesnt seem as harsh to me... anyone else agree?

Your pissing problem is due to the inflamation of the prostate that ephedrine causes. Clen messes with a ton more than ephedrine IMO. Aren't they both beta antagonists also? If so I dont think thats wise to go 2 weeks on then 2 weeks of ECA, that would only make the beta receptors immune to either. Keep in mind clen will stay in the body for about 5 days even after discontinued use.

 

[bilter]

good info prizz. thanks
6" off your waste, you musta been a fat mofo ;-)
good job

 

[x_con]

I dont know guys, ephedrine messes with me way more then even high dose clen does...I used to take lots of ephedrine and ended up having weird pissing problems and stuff that was very bothersome and let to my entire discontinuation of taking the drug, this was about a year before they banned it I quit taking it...thinking about trying it again but I dont know clen just doesnt seem as harsh to me... anyone else agree?

totally agree, ECA is very harsh for me, good results but i feel strung out all the time. With clen i get the hand shakes but other than that i feel great and the results are much better, for me anyway

 

[Prizz]

good info prizz. thanks
6" off your waste, you musta been a fat mofo ;-)
good job

LOL.... Yeah, I'm coming off a long ass break from training and eating right.... At least now I look like I'm in decent shape again, and it's a great feeling...

rizz

 

[badassy]

i like clen way better..... i can sleep when i take clen and i don't get anxiety. I get anxiety like a mother fucker with ephedrine.

ephedrine makes me feel like i got hit by a truck all day long.... then night time comes and i am laying in my bed thinking about everything.... ephedrine sucks balls.... but it works thats why i take it....

 

[TheMesonator]

Ephedrine has always been my fav. Clen makes me shake like crazy (even at lower doses) and I have no loss of appetite. Ephedrine helps me diet since I do lose my appetite. Both work decently, but honestly I shake so bad when I'm on clen I'm afraid to go out in the public!

And I do have the problem with being awake at night too if I'm not careful with Ephedrine, but I can adjust my timing when taking it so I can sleep. Just wish ephedrine was easier for me to find...

 

[Mavafanculo]

prizz-what was your dosing on the ECA? 20/200/20 two times @ day?

also, which do you think was less catabolic on muscle mass for you?

 

[SharkNutz]

I dont know guys, ephedrine messes with me way more then even high dose clen does...I used to take lots of ephedrine and ended up having weird pissing problems and stuff that was very bothersome and let to my entire discontinuation of taking the drug, this was about a year before they banned it I quit taking it...thinking about trying it again but I dont know clen just doesnt seem as harsh to me... anyone else agree?

I've had the same pissing problems with ECA, as a matter of fact i still have some sort of pissing problems from the ECA and its been 4 years since i've taken it. I will take clen the next time i'm cutting.

 

[Prizz]

prizz-what was your dosing on the ECA? 20/200/20 two times @ day?

also, which do you think was less catabolic on muscle mass for you?

Dosing is 25/200/81 (E/C/A), and I take it 3 times per day.... 1st dose is usually at 5am since I work pretty fucking early, and my last dose is no later then 12 noon, so my sleep is never affected.... I keep Benadryl around in case I can't fall asleep.....

As for the catabolic part, I'm taking Tren currently, so I have been gaining muscle as I'm losing this fat.... I think the Tren helps with fatloss, but that's just my observation, no evidence to proove it.... I'll probably give the Clen cycles another try close to next summer.... However, I'll use Trex for the 2 weeks off instead of ECA.....

rizz

 

[gjohnson5]

Depends on goals. i would like to burn fat with as little muscle loss as possible. for those who like clen , albuterol is supposed to be anabolic and less sides then clen

I do the time release version salbutamol ip

 

[Pikaberdot]

Clen is better because you can sleep on it, and you don't get the dreaded Ephedrine dick (makes your dick look like it's 20 degrees outside!).

 

[used2juice]

Clen sucks IMO. Cramps are harder to control and ALWAYS a fear in my mind. Shakes are bad, sweating is uncontrollable.

ECA is far better results-wise. Not only that, but the sides aren't as rough, and I've never had an issue with cramps when taking an eca.

 

[Mr.X]

receptor downregulation, improper use, lack of taurine and lack of potassium come into mind for me