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Delinquent
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Here's an interesting article
Am J Gastroenterol 2002 Jul;97(7):1674-81 Related Articles, Links
Anabolic-androgenic steroids for alcoholic liver disease: a Cochrane review.
Rambaldi A, Iaquinto G, Gluud C.
The Copenhagen Trial Unit, Centre for Clinical Intervention Research, Copenhagen University Hospital, Denmark.
OBJECTIVES: The objectives were to assess the beneficial and harmful effects of anabolic-androgenic steroids for alcoholic liver disease. METHODS: The Cochrane Hepato-Biliary Group Controlled Trials Register, The Cochrane Library, MEDLINE, EMBASE, and full text searches were combined. Only randomized clinical trials studying patients with alcoholic liver disease were included. Interventions encompassed anabolic-androgenic steroids at any dose or duration versus placebos or no intervention. The statistical package (RevMan and MetaView) provided by The Cochrane Collaboration was used. RESULTS: Five randomized clinical trials (including mainly men with alcoholic hepatitis and/or cirrhosis) were identified. Only one trial was assessed as adequate regarding all methodological quality components. Anabolic-androgenic steroids versus placebos or no intervention demonstrated no significant effects on mortality (relative risk [RR] = 0.96, 95% CI = 0.72-1.28), liver-related mortality (RR = 0.83, 95% CI = 0.60-1.15), complications to the liver disease (RR = 1.25, 95% CI = 0.74-2.10), liver histology, and a number of other outcome measures . Anabolic-androgenic steroids were not associated with a significantly increased risk of nonserious adverse events, but with the seldom occurrence of serious adverse events (RR = 4.54,95% CI = 0.57-36.30). CONCLUSIONS: This systematic review could not demonstrate any significant beneficial effects of anabolic-androgenic steroids on any clinically important outcomes of patients with alcoholic liver disease.
Publication Types:
Review
Review, Academic
PMID: 12135017 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Am J Gastroenterol 2002 Jul;97(7):1674-81 Related Articles, Links
Anabolic-androgenic steroids for alcoholic liver disease: a Cochrane review.
Rambaldi A, Iaquinto G, Gluud C.
The Copenhagen Trial Unit, Centre for Clinical Intervention Research, Copenhagen University Hospital, Denmark.
OBJECTIVES: The objectives were to assess the beneficial and harmful effects of anabolic-androgenic steroids for alcoholic liver disease. METHODS: The Cochrane Hepato-Biliary Group Controlled Trials Register, The Cochrane Library, MEDLINE, EMBASE, and full text searches were combined. Only randomized clinical trials studying patients with alcoholic liver disease were included. Interventions encompassed anabolic-androgenic steroids at any dose or duration versus placebos or no intervention. The statistical package (RevMan and MetaView) provided by The Cochrane Collaboration was used. RESULTS: Five randomized clinical trials (including mainly men with alcoholic hepatitis and/or cirrhosis) were identified. Only one trial was assessed as adequate regarding all methodological quality components. Anabolic-androgenic steroids versus placebos or no intervention demonstrated no significant effects on mortality (relative risk [RR] = 0.96, 95% CI = 0.72-1.28), liver-related mortality (RR = 0.83, 95% CI = 0.60-1.15), complications to the liver disease (RR = 1.25, 95% CI = 0.74-2.10), liver histology, and a number of other outcome measures . Anabolic-androgenic steroids were not associated with a significantly increased risk of nonserious adverse events, but with the seldom occurrence of serious adverse events (RR = 4.54,95% CI = 0.57-36.30). CONCLUSIONS: This systematic review could not demonstrate any significant beneficial effects of anabolic-androgenic steroids on any clinically important outcomes of patients with alcoholic liver disease.
Publication Types:
Review
Review, Academic
PMID: 12135017 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Sassy69
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Aside from trying to identify specifically what screws up your liver and what doesn't, I would personally recommend the conservative approach -- drinking basically introduces 'empty' calories into your system, which negates any diet efforts, and it dehydrates the crap out of you, which as we all know, is a recipe for misery, and finally it generally compromises your immune system by stressing it to get the "poison" out. Throw in a little fina too and what exactly are you trying to accomplish? Fina is also a foreign substance that has got to put stress on your system by itself. When you mix the two together not only are you giving your body a double whammy, but you are negating the whole purpose for doing a cycle (fina or other).
Just my humble thoughts on the topic.
Just my humble thoughts on the topic.
Big Mac Attack
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It aint worth it, choose on or the other not both.
distanced
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ok thate,
why don't I make a post that says that everyone who drives a chevy is going to die without posting any explination or reasoning.
I'm sick of uneducated people on this board who can't answer serious questions. Instead the board is full of smart asses trying to increase their post # and only spew out one liners they may have heard someone else say.
why don't I make a post that says that everyone who drives a chevy is going to die without posting any explination or reasoning.
I'm sick of uneducated people on this board who can't answer serious questions. Instead the board is full of smart asses trying to increase their post # and only spew out one liners they may have heard someone else say.
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