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gretak911

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I am going to get my first pre-cycle tests done. (something I and everyone who uses AAS should do.) What specific tests should I ask the Dr. to perform?
I'm not going to tell the Dr. that I'm about to cycle but that I'm thinking about taking some otc bodybuilding supplements and don't want to screw myself up.
 
Ask for a complete blood profiles, liver values, kidney function, and a hormonal profile with FREE TEST and BOUND TEST shown.

Peace.
 
Thanks. I saw a post earlier today asking similar info but I couldn't find it. Do you recommed getting tests mid cycle as well post cycle or just post cycle? How long after my cycle (planning on 10 weeks, 8 weeks of Test E@ 500mg/wk, with tren weeks 2-10 @t 150mg eod and dbol first 4 or 5 weeks @ 30mg/day.) I'm debating on how to run my hcg therapy as well. I was going to follow Lawnsaver's theory and take 500iu's every 5 days for the entire cycle but after reading about LH desensitization stories I may just do 1000iu's every 3 days for weeks 4,5 and 6. or till I use up the 10,000iu's. Liquidex at .5mg/day entire cycle and nolva on hand. Standard Clomid and nolvadex post cycle with liquid clen too.
 
gretak911 said:
I am going to get my first pre-cycle tests done. (something I and everyone who uses AAS should do.) What specific tests should I ask the Dr. to perform?
I'm not going to tell the Dr. that I'm about to cycle but that I'm thinking about taking some otc bodybuilding supplements and don't want to screw myself up.
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Dont forget to request estradiol, prolactin and possibly somatamedian-C and IGF-1 levels. Remember LDH is a crucial liver enzyme, which if elevated is indicative of some damage beginning...get it done.

Peace..B32 ;)
 
I appreciate those who do gear the safe way and monitor their health while gassin up. I agree with getting your blood work done that is what I do. But remember its always nice to get your blood work done while you are on your cycle also. Your liver enzymes will be normally off while juicin but its nice to know just how far aou of wack the are so continue to monitor these while on and then one month post to make sure you are back to normal. If yoou are back to normal after 1 month post use you know your body can handle the shit and is green for go on the next cycle
 
Question

Does insurance cover such tests? And what the hell would you tell old doc if he asked why you want those tests done anyway? Not like he wouldn't know anyway.
 
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slyder190 said:
Does insurance cover such tests? And what the hell would you tell old doc if he asked why you want those tests done anyway? Not like he wouldn't know anyway.
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Your entitled to a yearly physical.
 
Docs will never order what they don't understand or what they think is unnecessary. Typical tests that I order for performance enhancement purposes will never find their way into a PCP's office. Again, for the 20th times, I will post the list of 15 tests (for men) that will give a complete picture.

HORMONE

1. Cortisol, Total (367)
2. DHEA Sulfate (402)
3. IGF-1 (839)
4. IGFBP-3 (34458)
5. T3, Free (34429)
6. T4, Free (866-78)
7. TSH (899-75)
8. Testosterone, Total, Free and Weakly Bound (30741)
9. Hemoglobin A1C (496-39)
10. Fasting Insulin (561)

CARDIOVASCULAR

11. CBC (6399-20)
12. Comprehensive Metabolic Panel (10231-92)
13. Lipid Panel (7600-4)

OTHER

14. GGT (482-31) Important Liver Value not included in Comp Metabolic Panel
15. PSA (5363-64)

MAYBE THIS LIST SHOULD BE A STICKY, FOR EVERYONE SHOULD BE RUNNING THEM IF THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE BB'ERS.
 
Damn, thanx for the complete list DrJMW. But one thing is for sure, and that is that we dont know much about these things that are on the list. What do they represent and in what range should they be?

Is it all same for every bodybuilder (i doubt), i know you just gave an example but how do i know if my hormonal changes are back as i didnt do those tests before my first cycle?

Nice info though. I'm going to print it out and ask my doc to do those tests as i want to get ready for my first cycle.
 
DrJMW said:
Docs will never order what they don't understand or what they think is unnecessary. Typical tests that I order for performance enhancement purposes will never find their way into a PCP's office. Again, for the 20th times, I will post the list of 15 tests (for men) that will give a complete picture.

HORMONE

1. Cortisol, Total (367)
2. DHEA Sulfate (402)
3. IGF-1 (839)
4. IGFBP-3 (34458)
5. T3, Free (34429)
6. T4, Free (866-78)
7. TSH (899-75)
8. Testosterone, Total, Free and Weakly Bound (30741)
9. Hemoglobin A1C (496-39)
10. Fasting Insulin (561)

CARDIOVASCULAR

11. CBC (6399-20)
12. Comprehensive Metabolic Panel (10231-92)
13. Lipid Panel (7600-4)

OTHER

14. GGT (482-31) Important Liver Value not included in Comp Metabolic Panel
15. PSA (5363-64)

pretty much what I get

MAYBE THIS LIST SHOULD BE A STICKY, FOR EVERYONE SHOULD BE RUNNING THEM IF THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE BB'ERS.
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DrJMW said:
Docs will never order what they don't understand or what they think is unnecessary. Typical tests that I order for performance enhancement purposes will never find their way into a PCP's office. Again, for the 20th times, I will post the list of 15 tests (for men) that will give a complete picture.

HORMONE

1. Cortisol, Total (367)
2. DHEA Sulfate (402)
3. IGF-1 (839)
4. IGFBP-3 (34458)
5. T3, Free (34429)
6. T4, Free (866-78)
7. TSH (899-75)
8. Testosterone, Total, Free and Weakly Bound (30741)
9. Hemoglobin A1C (496-39)
10. Fasting Insulin (561)

CARDIOVASCULAR

11. CBC (6399-20)
12. Comprehensive Metabolic Panel (10231-92)
13. Lipid Panel (7600-4)

OTHER

14. GGT (482-31) Important Liver Value not included in Comp Metabolic Panel
15. PSA (5363-64)

MAYBE THIS LIST SHOULD BE A STICKY, FOR EVERYONE SHOULD BE RUNNING THEM IF THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE BB'ERS.
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I agree that they would never allow that much blood work to be done on a typical physical, but they would do 11,12,13,15, maybe number 14 on your list and probably your test levels if you tell them a good reason too. Then you could have a different Dr. do the others. This could save you some money. I get a physical once
a year for this purpose and see a sports doctor during the year and pay out of pocket for all additional test. If their is a cheaper way of doing it, please tell.
 
DrJMW,
somebody on another thread was asking about the anion gap: I was trying to remember, is it the difference in blood sodium and chloride and used in determing renal clearance of some drugs?
 
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