Dr Jmw

[liftr486]

doc, i did ur pct and am on my last weekk of clomid. the past few days i have noticed the most growth and can tell the balls are starting to kick in cuz theybe aching a little. wat would happen if i continued with the clomid past the six weeks? also, im still not getting hard-ons throughout the day or morning wood-ive been off 4 mos from a 7 mos cycle--wat do u recommend? hcg would supress me wouldnt it? thanx

 

[Stryker1992]

How long have you been w/out the bonners? When did you use hcg last?

 

[liftr486]

ive been w/o the boners since i came off, about 3 mos....except for the time i was takin tribulus, then i was get morning wood sometimes...the last time i tok hcg was the end of jan...and ive continued w/ the clomid, im a few days past six weeks, cuz i feel i havent recovered, but ill find out when my bloods come back today--ill post them

 

[DrJMW]

Did you use Nandrolones (deca, fina, tren) during your AAS cycle? If so, your prolactin levels may be elevated. You really should quit the clomid as instructed and continue clean for a while. Checking the blood test results will help, assuming you got all the necessary tests run.

 

[liftr486]

i did use fina in the very beginning...should i taper the clomid for a few days, or jus stop it, im doing 50mg /day

 

[DrJMW]

Stop it as scheduled. I suspect your prolactin levels are high. Did you use dostinex or winstrol to overcome FINA-induced raised progesterone/prolactin levels? If possible, get your prolactin levels checked. Otherwise, you may want to start dostinex (one 0.50mg tab twice weekly) for a month to get the levels down. I am seeing the incidence of nandrolone-induced impotence more and I wonder why the nandrolone users are not stacking winstrol or using dostinex. This has been discussed ad nauseum.

 

[liftr486]

will there be any rebound effect when i come off the clomid?
i used the fina from march 03 to august 03-could it still have an effect now?? i was also using eq, winny, and test prop for a while and stopped that in sept. also, when do u think my dick will start workin again-morning wood/hard-ons? thanx for all ur help.

 

[liftr486]

i got my bloods back:
test- 212 (normal 241-827)
FSH- 6.2
LH- 3.0
Estraidol- <32
Cortisol- 19.8
im stopping the clomid--u think it would be alright to use dostinex? would it have ne effect on recovery? (i could have elevated prolactin b/c my nipples have been bothering, but my estro levels are w/i range, right?)
also would gh effect recovery at all? thanx

 

[liftr486]

bump

 

[DrJMW]

liftr: your testos level are still suppressed. But again, since I haven't seen your baseline testos reading, this could be normal for you. You cannot assume anything. Your FSH and LH are normal, so this suggests that your testes are the problem. I am assuming your followed the PCT to the letter: eight-week recovery; first three weeks: 1,000U hcg, im, Mon, wed, fri; 20mg nolvadex daily; 50mg clomid daily.
Weeks four thru six: 50mg clomid daily, 20mg nolvadex daily. Based on what you wrote, you are finished with the pharmaceutical phase of recovery. Now, it is just a matter of time.
Your estradiol is normal; cortisol is normal. I DO NOT SEE PROLACTIN LEVELS. THIS IS IMPORTANT TO SEE.

Other comments: there will be no rebound effect when coming off clomid. Five-months of FINA will shut you down hard...all from increased Prolactin levels.

Here is what I would do: 1) Get your prolactin levels checked. If they are high, begin a regimen of dostinex (one 0.50mg tab twice weekly) for at least a month and retest HPTA hormones (FSH, LH, Testos, Prolactin, Estradiol). It looks like your testes aren't sufficiently responding to the LH stimulation. Time for the testes to recover and getting the Prolactin levels down are the immediate needs. If none of this works, you will probably require lifelong HRT.

 

[junk]

Just like the doc said, make a prolactin test. Don't just take Dostinex if your prolactin levels are normal. Prolactin is needed (in small amounts) in the body, so you wouldn't want to completely shut them down if Prolactin wasn't your problem in the first place.

 

[liftr486]

the doc didnt check my prolactin..ill have to go back again...those bloods were takin in like my last week of clomid intake--i was there for a checkup and he did them then...i was also going to do bloods two weeks after clomid--could i still take the dostinex b4 seein the results of the bloods because if my estro is normal, y would my nipples b bothering me, wouldnt it have to be related to prolactin/progesterone and wouldnt the dostinex help that? also, today for most of the day, my balls were killin-they were aching so bad and i jus checked them and they seem to have gotten bigger--

 

[liftr486]

also, someone at my gym said that he had used dostinex and hgh for the first time and w/i the next few hours he said his dick was bigger when it was flacid, not erect, jus flacid, (he said sorta like when u take cialis and dont have a hard-on, jus soft, but still bigger)and the next day it was the same way...could that have been increased blood flow and wat could that have been from-the hgh or dostinex, nothin else was changed? jus curious thanx