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Dr. Atkins dies at 72

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NEW YORK (Reuters) - World famous diet doctor Robert Atkins, advocate of a popular but controversial high protein, low carbohydrate diet, died on Thursday, his spokesman said.
Spokesman Richard Rothstein said Atkins, 72, died at 11:01 a.m. EDT in the Weill Cornell Medical Center in New York, where he was admitted on April 8 after falling and hitting his head on an icy sidewalk.

Atkins underwent surgery to remove a blood clot from his brain but went into a coma and died more than a week later from complications, Rothstein said.

Atkins developed the "Atkins Diet" -- now referred to as "the Atkins Nutritional Approach" -- that blames carbohydrates, a major energy source, for weight gain. The program has been criticized by the medical establishment as risking disease, but several recent studies have shown that the diet can help people lose weight without damaging their health.

He first published, "Diet Revolution" in 1972, which was updated twice and hit the best-seller lists despite the criticism. His latest book, "Atkins for Life," was published this year.

"The cause of death was related to head trauma from an accident that occurred while Dr. Atkins was on his way to work," Rothstein said in a statement.

Atkins fell on his way to work at the Atkins Center for Complementary Medicine in Manhattan during an unusual spring snowstorm that hit the New York region on April 7.

In addition to his wife, Veronica, Dr. Atkins is survived by his mother, Norma Atkins.
 
R.I.P Dr. Atkens....

It's sad to say i believe if the sidewalk didn't kill him his diet eventually would. I am not a big fan of all these crazzzy diets. Sure for a short time it shouldn't have any major effects on the body but in the long run if you keep cutting those carbs out like he did you mess your mind chemistry and other shit up putting yourself in position for disease!!! I.M.O note i said I.M.O from what i have learned thus far about the health field!!!!
 
Re: R.I.P Dr. Atkens....

TheDarkSideNinja said:
It's sad to say i believe if the sidewalk didn't kill him his diet eventually would. I am not a big fan of all these crazzzy diets. Sure for a short time it shouldn't have any major effects on the body but in the long run if you keep cutting those carbs out like he did you mess your mind chemistry and other shit up putting yourself in position for disease!!! I.M.O note i said I.M.O from what i have learned thus far about the health field!!!!

there is no health concerns for his diet in the short term. dr atkins never said that you should eat low carb for the rest of your life. have you ever looked at his diet before? there are phases (4 total i believe) and the last phase has you eating moderate carbs. his diet is to lose fat and maintain your weight once you reach your goal
 
Re: R.I.P Dr. Atkens....

TheDarkSideNinja said:
It's sad to say i believe if the sidewalk didn't kill him his diet eventually would. I am not a big fan of all these crazzzy diets. Sure for a short time it shouldn't have any major effects on the body but in the long run if you keep cutting those carbs out like he did you mess your mind chemistry and other shit up putting yourself in position for disease!!! I.M.O note i said I.M.O from what i have learned thus far about the health field!!!!

Dr Atkins didnt follow his diet..he admitted he was a carb addict on multiple occasions.

....Cutting carbs has no adverse effects. Read The Ketogenic Diet by Lyle Mcdonald, the biochem is explained well.
 
HEY....

@$$hoooooole i mean DepressiveJuicy and your lil butt buddy Poan i never said it was dangerous to go on the diet for short periods of time but at the same time would never recommend it because i am not an R.D. are you mutha fuckers??? That's right bitch so shut your fuckin mouth. Wanna thrown down my posts about Ephedra it's cock suckers like u giving bodybuilders a bad rep by taking harmful shit. How bout over the 80 deaths and uncountable sides many many many people have experienced thus far....yea thats right so shut the fuck up. Now Juicy look back in my post and give me an apology or step into my ring so i can beat the ignorance out of you. And no it's not "ROID RAGE" i've yet to do a cycle!!! Just get a lil pissed when people like you are giving out info. that can hurt others. I did a lot of research on Ephedra by the way when i made those statements and i stand by them. Not only did i have studies to back the shit up but also knew people who experienced the seizures, dizzyness, etc. Just talked to a track athlete as a matter of fact. She is 20 yrs old and was in great condition and had prolly a better diet than you. Anyways she began using a supplement "Ephedra" and 18 days later passed out in her car. Continued use and eventually wound up having seizures..... Thats all i have to say!!!! ~JT~
 
Re: HEY....

TheDarkSideNinja said:
@$$hoooooole i mean DepressiveJuicy and your lil butt buddy Poan i never said it was dangerous to go on the diet for short periods of time but at the same time would never recommend it because i am not an R.D. are you mutha fuckers??? That's right bitch so shut your fuckin mouth. Wanna thrown down my posts about Ephedra it's cock suckers like u giving bodybuilders a bad rep by taking harmful shit. How bout over the 80 deaths and uncountable sides many many many people have experienced thus far....yea thats right so shut the fuck up. Now Juicy look back in my post and give me an apology or step into my ring so i can beat the ignorance out of you. And no it's not "ROID RAGE" i've yet to do a cycle!!! Just get a lil pissed when people like you are giving out info. that can hurt others. I did a lot of research on Ephedra by the way when i made those statements and i stand by them. Not only did i have studies to back the shit up but also knew people who experienced the seizures, dizzyness, etc. Just talked to a track athlete as a matter of fact. She is 20 yrs old and was in great condition and had prolly a better diet than you. Anyways she began using a supplement "Ephedra" and 18 days later passed out in her car. Continued use and eventually wound up having seizures..... Thats all i have to say!!!! ~JT~

Adding Ephedrine to a sprinter's heart-rate......another case of people not using their brain when taking the stuff. Nothing against you though.
 
MrMakevelli....

I hear ya bro but she wasn't a sprinter she's a distance runner. She thought Ephedra would help her but it ended up hurting her more in the short term. Maybe for some they don't see side effects yet or maybe they will never who knows but i've seen and heard enough and I.M.O the benefits do not out weigh the costs!!! You can get there by not being lazy and following a strict diet!!!
 
running and ephedrine

Ephedrine would be more beneficial for a sprinter as it would help explosiveness... and it wouldnt be harmful since you are only exerting yourself for a limited period of time... then having ample rest.

why a distance runner would use it? i dont know... plus it would be dangerous due to your heart rate being elevated for such a long period of time while running, in addition to the strain from the ephedrine itself.

Ephedrine is safe and useful if you are:

a)sitting your ass in a chair
b)lifting
or c)doing moderate cardio (though you may need to stop if your heart beings palpitating.)

So be smart, and use that melon of yours.


TheDarkSideNinja said:
I hear ya bro but she wasn't a sprinter she's a distance runner. She thought Ephedra would help her but it ended up hurting her more in the short term. Maybe for some they don't see side effects yet or maybe they will never who knows but i've seen and heard enough and I.M.O the benefits do not out weigh the costs!!! You can get there by not being lazy and following a strict diet!!!
 
Re: HEY....

TheDarkSideNinja said:
@$$hoooooole i mean DepressiveJuicy and your lil butt buddy Poan i never said it was dangerous to go on the diet for short periods of time but at the same time would never recommend it because i am not an R.D. are you mutha fuckers??? That's right bitch so shut your fuckin mouth. Wanna thrown down my posts about Ephedra it's cock suckers like u giving bodybuilders a bad rep by taking harmful shit. How bout over the 80 deaths and uncountable sides many many many people have experienced thus far....yea thats right so shut the fuck up. Now Juicy look back in my post and give me an apology or step into my ring so i can beat the ignorance out of you. And no it's not "ROID RAGE" i've yet to do a cycle!!! Just get a lil pissed when people like you are giving out info. that can hurt others. I did a lot of research on Ephedra by the way when i made those statements and i stand by them. Not only did i have studies to back the shit up but also knew people who experienced the seizures, dizzyness, etc. Just talked to a track athlete as a matter of fact. She is 20 yrs old and was in great condition and had prolly a better diet than you. Anyways she began using a supplement "Ephedra" and 18 days later passed out in her car. Continued use and eventually wound up having seizures..... Thats all i have to say!!!! ~JT~

wtf :confused: i'm talking about atkin's diet, youre talking about ephedra and youre calling me ignorant? hookay
 
Re: Hmmm...

TheDarkSideNinja said:
Well part was addressed to you concerning the diet and part was for Poan talkin about ephedra on me!!! Does that help?

right and i was simply answering this statement that you made "in the long run if you keep cutting those carbs out like he did you mess your mind chemistry ". atkins never meant the diet to be low carb forever. you need to answer posts with a bit more maturity and stop flaming so many people
 
Re: HEY....

TheDarkSideNinja said:
@$$hoooooole i mean DepressiveJuicy and your lil butt buddy Poan i never said it was dangerous to go on the diet for short periods of time but at the same time would never recommend it because i am not an R.D. are you mutha fuckers??? That's right bitch so shut your fuckin mouth. Wanna thrown down my posts about Ephedra it's cock suckers like u giving bodybuilders a bad rep by taking harmful shit. How bout over the 80 deaths and uncountable sides many many many people have experienced thus far....yea thats right so shut the fuck up. Now Juicy look back in my post and give me an apology or step into my ring so i can beat the ignorance out of you. And no it's not "ROID RAGE" i've yet to do a cycle!!! Just get a lil pissed when people like you are giving out info. that can hurt others. I did a lot of research on Ephedra by the way when i made those statements and i stand by them. Not only did i have studies to back the shit up but also knew people who experienced the seizures, dizzyness, etc. Just talked to a track athlete as a matter of fact. She is 20 yrs old and was in great condition and had prolly a better diet than you. Anyways she began using a supplement "Ephedra" and 18 days later passed out in her car. Continued use and eventually wound up having seizures..... Thats all i have to say!!!! ~JT~

Damn, man, overreact much?
 
Well....

I understand where your comming from and maybe i do over-react. I just wanna help where i can. Sometimes i throw my opinion in like i did in that first post along with some knowledge i have found to be true. Sorry if i flip off the handle sometimes but i just want everybody to be safe and know as much as they can before deciding what they should or shouldn't do. Debate is good cause it sometimes brings out the truth and makes people aware.
 
TheDarkSideNinja - No need to act like a 5 year old thowing a temper tantrum.

If Ephedra is so bad then why are less then ONLY .01% of all users dying? It's safer than Vioxx and that's A FACT! No one is calling for a ban of Vioxx are they? I know one person PERSONALLY who died of a heart attack that Doctor's are saying was caused DIRECTLY by Vioxx. Rad up on Vioxx bro. There 's even a class action lawsuit that's been filed.

On another note, anyone can get a script for low level speed! It's called Adderall! Adderall is a combination of three amphetamine sulfates. What do you think the health effects are of some poor kid (or adult) that uses even 10 - 20 mgs per day of Adderall day in and day out for 3-4 years? Why don't you check out many of the Adderall discussion boards and then you'll see just how fucked up those people's hearts, brains AND lives are! Long term Adderall use has many of the very same health effects on the brain as cocaine.

Banning Adderall and making it a Schedule I substance would be a much more worthy cause to pursue then your vendetta against Ephedra. If you're going to fight something fight Adderall which is a MUCH, MUCH bigger health risk to the populace then Ephedra ever be.

Why is Adderall still legal? Because the big pharmacuetical companies have 100,000 times the political power adn lobby in D.C. (read $$$) that supplement industry will ever have. It's called politics.

Adderall is a slow death......

The bottomline is that there are soooo many other 'upplements and drugs that are much more worthy to fight for banning and that are much more dangerous than Ephedra. I'm sick of the largely overstated dangers of Ephedra and so are many others!

We can ban Ephedra which doens;t even kill 100 people a years, but we can;t ban smoking wich kills millions and millins. GOD BLESS AMERICA! You can choose to derail your healh by smoking, but you can't (maybe soon anyway) take a pill containg Ephedra...

I hope that you are for banning smoking as mentionef above as well as alcohol too. Thsoe two things provide ZERO (other than maybe a couole ounces of alcohol per day) health benefits and kill millions, yet you're bitching about Ephedra!! Please give us all a break from your rhetoric!!!
 
atkins theories were a godsend for those
of us with reactive hypoglycemia...

a great man who bucked the establishment and won...
 
Re: Well....

TheDarkSideNinja said:
I understand where your comming from and maybe i do over-react. I just wanna help where i can. Sometimes i throw my opinion in like i did in that first post along with some knowledge i have found to be true. Sorry if i flip off the handle sometimes but i just want everybody to be safe and know as much as they can before deciding what they should or shouldn't do. Debate is good cause it sometimes brings out the truth and makes people aware.

Every goddamn thing you type on this board is absolute SHIT. There is NOTHING UNSAFE About carb depletion. The body/brain does just fine with when glucose is replaced by glucagon.

Goddamn media drone:mad:
 
Re: Re: Well....

poantrex said:


Every goddamn thing you type on this board is absolute SHIT. There is NOTHING UNSAFE About carb depletion. The body/brain does just fine with when glucose is replaced by glucagon.

Goddamn media drone:mad:

lol. i've learned to ignore his comments when he goes off
 
bwood said:
atkins theories were a godsend for those
of us with reactive hypoglycemia...

a great man who bucked the establishment and won...

agreed 100%

sucks to do all that and then die from ice on a sidewalk... life sure is shitty sometimes...
 
Hey POAN....

That's why you could never be a doctor....you don't understand shit about the human body. Do u think i study the mother fucker for my health??? Well yes i guess i do. But an idiot like you will not survive long with your smarts. When your 50 or 60 if you make it taht long and crumbling up like a weed from not taking precautions and just beating the shit out of your body by thinking you know.....don't cry about it!!! And by the way i am very Libertarian it's just a point of morals when i go off about a supplement i believe does not outweigh it's benefits and there are a lot of them. I would rather not have govt. involved in many of the things that go on!!! And yes drinking and smoking should be banned. IMO You say i listen to the media??? I don't waste my fucking time watching that BULLSHIT i look at research that is proven!!! Have a wonderful weekend and great Easter!!! ~JT~
 
Blah, blah, blah, blargh. Do you ever stop blathering about bullshit? Lets get back to the point here - Show some evidence that low carbohydrate diets can cause early death - and i'll show you 20 that show improved cholesterol and improved health with the atkins diet.

I'll show you 20 studies to your zero.
 
Listen to learn...

C.1900-Too many muscles are bad for you
C. 1930's-40's-Too much muscle hampers athletic ability.
C. 1950's-60's-All bodybuilders are homosexuals
C. 1970's-Steriods are ineffective
C. 1980's-Steriods will kill you
C. 1990's-Ephedrine will kill you, low carb diets will kill you, Creatine will kill you, Andro will kill you, etc.etc.

you guys...TURN OFF YOUR TELEVISIONS!!!!

There is nothing but agenda dripping garbage coming out of it. If you really believe the biased news and information that comes out of that thing, you are seriously out of touch with the real world!
2 (TWO), people have died directly from the overdosing of ephedrine. Anyone else had other problems existing and their use of ephedrine was discovered and a bogus connection made.
Even if thousands died from it, it still would be statistically insignificant. DARKSIDENINJA, you're falling into the trap of blaiming the 'user' for not acting correctly and causing a 'crackdown' when the problem is really government intervention in a matter that is absolutely none of their business.
I read posted articles the other day on this site about the Atkins diet. It questioned it's effectiveness, but there were no references to danger. Now it is true that LONGTERM ketosis MAY harm the kidneys. But if I'm not mistaken, Atkin's duration of ketosis never goes beyond five days. I've read studies that have had human subjects in Ketosis for WEEKS with no permanent harmful effects. Remember the guys stuck in the Andes in south america in the plane crash? They were all in ketosis for 70+ days, they required hospitilization for malnutrition, but that was it.
(I don't think human flesh has carbs) Well maybe pussy....

Dr Atkins, you were the man!
 
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