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SonnyBlack

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recently ive been looking to take something to help me lower my prolactin levels. I was wondering if there is a natural supplement you can take that will help with prolactin levels by raising DOPAMINE levels. Ive heard of VITEX but ive also heard that it raises progesterone levels. So what do you guys recommend for raising DOPAMINE levels??thanks
 
Actually, there is some product made by supplement companies that is supposed to raise dopamine. It's overall goal was to increase dopamine resulting in an increase in hgh production. I can't remember the name of the product, but if it comes to me I'll post it.
 
is there anything over the counter that you can use to raise dopamine levels??Are any of the ones you mentioned over the counter???
 
There is a bean that some supplements have that contain l-dopa. Most MAO inhibitors increase dopamine levels. Deprenyl increases dopamine through MAO inhibition and also decreases prolactin. I've read from a few sources that claim yohimbine acts as an MAO inhibitor. Acetyl l-carnitine can cause slight dopamine elevations. Many central nervous stimulants will too, but I don't know all of them specifically. The amino acids tyrosine and phenylalanine will increase dopamine levels too.
 
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L-dopa, from Mucuna sp., is used as a pro-dopamine agent. Bromocryptine is a dopaminERGIC, which means it acts like dopamine in the brain. Deprenyl is an MAO B inhibitor, which elevates dopamine levels, by decreasing its rate of breakdown in the body.
 
i have some acetyl carnatine lying around...will taking it help raise my dopamine levels at all and therefore lower prolactin???Also...are deprenyl and selegine over the counter and are there any side effects to them???
 
Actually, Benadryl is known to raise dopamine levels and has been used to treat mild Parkinson's disease! You can get the generic for dirt cheap. Check out a PDR if you don't believe me!

JC
 
Sinemet 250mg levodopa and 25mg carbidopa. Here is where I found the best deal:
http://www.24hourdrugstore.tv/products/misc.htm
60 tabs (120 doses) for $42, shipping included, no prescription req'd.

Note: carbidopa prevents degradation of levodopa in the digestive system so more of it will reach the brain intact; that translates in an increase in efficiency so you only have to take 25% of the amount of levodopa you would take by itself. So, to lower prolactin and spike your HGH release 6 fold, recommended dose of levodopa alone is 500mg (you can easily find studies on that, just do a search) so you only need half of Sinemet tab = 125/25mg. They have a crease in the middle so they snap in halfs easily. I took a whole tablet once and I woke up 2-3 hours later, soaked in sweat and with severe nausea... ended up vomiting my stomach inside out. Start with half a tab, some references say taking with a salty snack (pretzels) will also help alleviate stomach problems. Do not chew the tabs, they are designed to be time-released.
 
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norr , I you F*in nuts or stupid. I hope just misinformed. No one here should be taking that shit (Sinemet 250mg levodopa and 25mg carbidopa). Do your homework before tossing shit like that around. Someone could get hurt. The last thing this board needs is some 17 or 18 kid getting their hands on that stuff because they read about it here. Do a search it has been disscued before. For anyone who may have been swayed by this post, do not take this stuff. Read below:

ADVERSE REACTIONS
Tablets
The most common serious adverse reactions occurring with carbidopa-levodopa are choreiform, dystonic, and other involuntary movements. Other serious adverse reactions are mental changes including paranoid ideation and psychotic episodes, depression with or without development of suicidal tendencies, and dementia. Convulsions also have occurred; however, a causal relationship with carbidopa-levodopa has not been established.

A common but less serious effect is nausea.
Less frequent adverse reactions are cardiac irregularities and/or palpitation, orthostatic hypotensive episodes, bradykinetic episodes (the "on-off" phenomenon), anorexia, vomiting, and dizziness.

Rarely, gastrointestinal bleeding, development of duodenal ulcer, hypertension, phlebitis, hemolytic and non-hemolytic anemia, thrombocytopenia, leukopenia, and agranulocytosis have occurred.

Laboratory tests which have been reported to be abnormal are alkaline phosphatase, SGOT (AST), SGPT (ALT), lactic dehydrogenase, bilirubin, blood urea nitrogen, protein-bound iodine, and Coombs test.

Other adverse reactions that have been reported with levodopa are:
Nervous System: ataxia, numbness, increased hand tremor, muscle twitching, muscle cramps, blepharospasm (which may be taken as an early sign of excess dosage, consideration of dosage reduction may be made at this time), trismus, activation of latent Horner's syndrome.
Psychiatric: confusion, sleepiness, insomnia, nightmares, hallucinations, delusions, agitation, anxiety, euphoria.
Gastrointestinal: dry mouth, bitter taste, sialorrhea, dysphagia, bruxism, hiccups, abdominal pain and distress, constipation, diarrhea, flatulence, burning sensation of tongue.
Metabolic: weight gain or loss, edema.
Integumentary: malignant melanoma (see also CONTRAINDICATIONS), flushing, increased sweating, dark sweat, skin rash, loss of hair.

Genitourinary: urinary retention, urinary incontinence, dark urine, priapism.

Special Senses: diplopia, blurred vision, dilated pupils, oculogyric crises.

Miscellaneous: weakness, faintness, fatigue, headache, hoarseness, malaise, hot flashes, sense of stimulation, bizarre breathing patterns, neuroleptic malignant syndrome.
 
LONE_AZ

First, calm down a bit. Those sides are common with dosages used in the treatment of Parkinson, much higher than the one I suggested. Use of levodopa for gh release is documented in "Grow Young With Hgh" by Ronald Klatz a very well respected anti-aging specialist, not to mention an MD.
I have more references if you really want to continue this in a civilized manner, I will not reply if you keep calling names.
As you can see I've done some homework on the subject and I can also add to that personal experience with Sinemet use. Anybody can launch in a hysterical rant based on a copy/paste taken out of context.
 
Did not mean to call you names. I know a great deal about this medicine and it is not a good idea for a health person to take this medicine. First of all it loses it effectivness over time and adverse reaction do occur a lower doses. Futhermore as is loses it’s effectiveness lager and larger does are needed to achive the same benificial effects thus increasing the chance of adverse reaction. I’m aware of some of the studies also and I still contend that this drug is far to harsh to subject a heathly person to. It is much more prudent to use a reuptake inhibitor rather than a synthetic that Stops woking over time.
 
Bros these drugs are given to people who have real chemical imbalances. Dopamine receptors only exist in certain parts of the brain and kidneys mostly and taking these drugs is not a good idea. Most people abuse these drugs because they can cause a euphoria, but too much dopamine is a bad thing. Too much dopamine is what causes people to have psychotic episodes because it causes changes in the brain some are permanent. Schizophrenic have too much dopamine, but even when they take drugs to lower those levels they are still schizo's just like once somebody becomes an addict, after that they are always an addict. they've permenently changed their brain chemistry, blood circulation everything. Is that a good enough arguement?
 
LONE_AZ said:
Did not mean to call you names. I know a great deal about this medicine and it is not a good idea for a health person to take this medicine. First of all it loses it effectivness over time and adverse reaction do occur a lower doses. Futhermore as is loses it’s effectiveness lager and larger does are needed to achive the same benificial effects thus increasing the chance of adverse reaction. I’m aware of some of the studies also and I still contend that this drug is far to harsh to subject a heathly person to. It is much more prudent to use a reuptake inhibitor rather than a synthetic that Stops woking over time.

I do realize that my low post-count can lead one to believe I don't know what I'm talking about; but that's because I'm not a "bump" champion nor a copy/paste guru (not implying you are either), instead I choose to only post about stuff I have FIRST HAND experience of.
Now back to the harshness of this drug, here are the recommended doses that yield those scary adverse reactions:

- For patients with mild to moderate symptoms, the initial recommended dose is 1 tablet of Sinemet CR taken 2 times a day
- The usual long-term dose is 2 to 8 tablets per day, taken in divided doses every 4 to 8 hours during the waking day
- Higher doses (12 or more tablets per day) and shorter intervals (less than 4 hours) have been used, but are not usually recommended.

Let's see again what's the dose I suggested (and the one I have used!) - 1/2 tab per day... Do you still think I'm crazy/stupid/missinformed?
Peace.
 
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Bro, deprenyl will not get you high at any dose. If it did I would be high as a kite. A good analogy would be “ if you took a lot of Prozac you would roll like you are on E. we know that is not true. All it does id stop the oxidation of dopamine by free radicals it also protects dopamine-producing cells from oxidative stress. As we get older our bodies do not produce as much dopamine as they did when we were young. This drug increase that amount to normal levels not above.
 
Interesting. Can you explain why you are taking that particular drug? I take deprenyl for several reasons. One is I used to abuse dopamine depleting substances. Two it reduces my prolactin levels. Three is improves my sex drive and finally it seems to be the only drug that is able to alleviate the mild depression I suffer from occasionally.

The reason why I have such a negative outlook on it is that a family member was forced to use it and after some time and ever increasing doses the side effects were profound and sometimes dangerous.
 
Maybe I am going out on a limb, but I think it safe to say that a drug that increases dopamine could be abused and could produce higher than normal levels. Drugs that increase serotonin levels or acetylcholine levels can increase them to supraphysiologic levels, ie Serotonin Syndrome and a Cholinergic Crisis. What mechanism with dopamine receptor would change this increase if someone were taking a dopamine reuptake inhibitor? As far as deprenyl, is this a prescribed drug in the US?
 
It uses MAO-B and effectively blocks the reuptake of catecholamines into neurons. Extra cellular concentrations of MAO-B increase with age. As for Wellbutrin it does have some Dopamergic effects but primarily works in the same manor as a SSRI so it does not even come close to the positive effects on dopamine that deprenyl has. It is prescription in the US. I have noticed some attenuation effects at doses of 10 mg ED. But none at 5 mg. L-dopa on the other hand may produce the kind of effects you are talking about in theory at least.

I would say that a person under the age of 30 has no use for this drug unless they have an extensive history of dopamine depleting substance abuse.
 
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Can you explain why you are taking that particular drug? I take deprenyl for several reasons. One is I used to abuse dopamine depleting substances. Two it reduces my prolactin levels. Three is improves my sex drive and finally it seems to be the only drug that is able to alleviate the mild depression I suffer from occasionally.

The reason why I have such a negative outlook on it is that a family member was forced to use it and after some time and ever increasing doses the side effects were profound and sometimes dangerous.

Well, I have no depression, mild or not, and my sex drive... let's not go there. I seem to be at the other end of the spectrum from you, I'm more the restless type; people always tell me to slow down and switch to decaf. Sinemet is good for me in this regard, makes me calm, I sleep like a baby every night. One other reason, there are studies that certifies it as a gh releaser... Deprenyl might just do the same, but I don't know that for a fact. I'll probably give it a try when I finish my Sinemet supplies, although by that time HGH prices will hopefully be low enough for me to stay on real stuff for months at a decent daily i.u.
As for the sides, except for that one time when I took a whole tablet, I didn't have shit, I've had weirder reactions from GABA than from Sinemet.
Anyway I only take it like every third month or so for 4 weeks over a keto-diet betwen cycles, so I've never felt the need to increase the dose, responded well every time.
 
You might also want to consider the lonely amino acid L-Tryosine taken 1000mg 3x/day...works wonders for me.

Finally, are you completely certain that you're getting all the basic vitamins and minerals in your diet? Any imbalance there can play havoc and show up in the strangest ways.

Best Vitamin & Mineral complex I've found is Supernutrition's SuperBlend. checkout http://www.supernutritionusa.com
 
thank you for all your replies guys....im planning on getting some deprenyl in by this month...in the meantime i was wondering if taking some acetyl carnatine that i have around will help with dopamine levels at all?
 
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