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Date: 07/09/03 05:36 PM
Author: NEWGAC
Subject: Who is this guy?
You know that Butters and I really wanted to wait until we got back stateside to address this Primo testing bullshit but this Wallace character as it turns out, is posting links on EVERY board out there to the board he is the ADMIN on which he posts this "assay" supposedly done on our Primo. Wallace and I have a bit of history that I am sure Wallace will not deny it, or will you Wally? And Wallace has a definite axe to grind with me and RedStar.
I know, I know, he is putting up links to "his board" to tell the world about the "Badstar Primo" because he is the hero of the day and he is only looking out for your best interests because he is a true bro in every sense of the word. The sad thing is that we're finding a lot of bros believing this without even giving us a fair chance to defend ourselves. If Wally had a bridge for sale and described it on a piece of plain white paper, would you buy it?
Does this lab assay come on a letterhead? NO! Is there a telephone number on the assay that you can call to verify it? NO! Is the assay signed and dated by the person who read and performed it? NO! Does it look like something someone could copy from a real assay into MS Word without the graphics parts (like a signature or logo)? HELL YEAH!!! This "assay" looks like it comes from SRCS. However, SRCS, when we called them TODAY, AND WE DID CALL THEM AND YOU SHOULD AND CAN TOO IF YOU DOUBT IT, will not release the results of any customers assays to someone over the phone. They can't So all you have is something that looks like it was done it MS Word cloned from a legit SRCS assay put into a .pdf and now the Primo that so many bros have used and raved about is fokking bunk?!? I'm disappointed, I really am. There is no loyalty among too many people. Heck, if I am guilty, I should fry for sure (and I say that because I know I am not) and if I am guilty of selling plain oil with no steroids in it like this assay alleges, remember, it's not just that they didn't detect methenolone enanthate, they detected NO STEROIDALS in the bottle, then I should be banned from every board, tarred and feathered, whatever.
But damned, don't I deserve the benefit of the doubt? Don't I get a chance to defend myself and my product? I'm being convicted on the slimmest shreds of the most dubious evidence.
And I am pissed off now. And I am collecting names and e-mail addy's of anyone posting shit about us in any thread and if you're in Butters database, you are cut off forever.
I am truly pissed off, that I can't go away on vacation for a fokking week without shit like this happening. What, I don't get a break? I can't have a good time or a life without shit life this happening? This timing wasn't deliberate now was it?!?
Unreal, I have always come through for EVERY customer of mine, even when it costs me out of pockect. If someone's order is screwed up, they make it back in spades. If it is late, they get it doubled. And now because some William WallASS says my gear is bunk on every board (ever wonder why he never posted the scan on the boards but rather put links back to HIS board where he is the ADMIN and they have like 2000 posts total and 200 members?) it automatically is because he posts some scan that my 5 year old daughter could make in 10 minutes using Microsoft Office products?
CALL SRCS and ask to verify the scan. They will NOT do it!!! How very convenient for Mr. WallASS and his friends, isn't it?
Forget it, I am not dealing with this shit again. I'm posting a lab scan (with a letterhead and signature, I have to use SRCS even though I don't want to because WallASS claims he did and we need to be consistent) when I get back proving the PrimoMAX is legit, the stuff is being sent overnight to the lab, they will have a scan for me on Monday the 14th, the earliest I can get it from them. You have any idea how much this is costing me to do from where I am now?
And once I settle this shit and show that the PrimoMAX contains 200mg/ml methenolone enanthate +/- 5% either way I am dropping this issues and any doubters like flies.
And the business model is going to change. Sorry, I realized a lot today via e-mails from a alot of people. This is my vacation time I am doing this shit on. It's not fair to me, Butters, my kid, this is just taking up too much time. We're off the boards when I get back and we're only dealing with customers we know are solid. And we're not opening the doors up EVER again. You want to be a customer but aren't now? You'll need two (2) existing bros on my approved list to refer you to us personally. No exceptions. I'd rather have 500-1000 loyal bros who order $1K at a time then 6,000 hysterical shitheads ordering single bottles who freak out the second someone posts some dubious crap about me without giving me the chance to defend myself.
The retail end of Red Star is retiring FOR SURE. Wholesale only when I get back. If you are an approved customer and not slamming me here or at Anabolex or OSBB or wherever, you're good to go and you'll probably like the new service we're working out. The rest of you...pucker up and give my hind side a nice long smoocheroonie!!! GMUNK, they are ALL yours, enjoy them.
And WallASS, you're not the hero you think you are or want people to think you are, friend. You're a sycophant who is pissed because I would not kiss your ass way back when and you've had it in for me since that time. And now that a certain someone has come around with some money and a new board (and wait, did I hear he will have his own lab too?) you're trying to take a swing at me, the big guy, eh?
I'm not going anywhere, Wally...I've cut farts that caused me more stink than you will.
I'm NOT posting again until I get the results of the lab tests back from SRCS and have them scanned.
Frankly, I don't see the point. Either my stuff is as I say it is or it is not. If you used the PrimoMAX and don't think it has ANY steroids in it (never mind methenolone enanthate) then here is your chance to take a swing at me. If you are an up and coming bootlegger who wants to bash me with the hopes you'll get some extra sales out of it, then go for it (hear that Wally and crew?).
But until I get the labs back, everything you say and do is just a bunch of posturing. And when I get the results back, be sure and bend over, OK?
Phil
Author: NEWGAC
Subject: Who is this guy?
You know that Butters and I really wanted to wait until we got back stateside to address this Primo testing bullshit but this Wallace character as it turns out, is posting links on EVERY board out there to the board he is the ADMIN on which he posts this "assay" supposedly done on our Primo. Wallace and I have a bit of history that I am sure Wallace will not deny it, or will you Wally? And Wallace has a definite axe to grind with me and RedStar.
I know, I know, he is putting up links to "his board" to tell the world about the "Badstar Primo" because he is the hero of the day and he is only looking out for your best interests because he is a true bro in every sense of the word. The sad thing is that we're finding a lot of bros believing this without even giving us a fair chance to defend ourselves. If Wally had a bridge for sale and described it on a piece of plain white paper, would you buy it?
Does this lab assay come on a letterhead? NO! Is there a telephone number on the assay that you can call to verify it? NO! Is the assay signed and dated by the person who read and performed it? NO! Does it look like something someone could copy from a real assay into MS Word without the graphics parts (like a signature or logo)? HELL YEAH!!! This "assay" looks like it comes from SRCS. However, SRCS, when we called them TODAY, AND WE DID CALL THEM AND YOU SHOULD AND CAN TOO IF YOU DOUBT IT, will not release the results of any customers assays to someone over the phone. They can't So all you have is something that looks like it was done it MS Word cloned from a legit SRCS assay put into a .pdf and now the Primo that so many bros have used and raved about is fokking bunk?!? I'm disappointed, I really am. There is no loyalty among too many people. Heck, if I am guilty, I should fry for sure (and I say that because I know I am not) and if I am guilty of selling plain oil with no steroids in it like this assay alleges, remember, it's not just that they didn't detect methenolone enanthate, they detected NO STEROIDALS in the bottle, then I should be banned from every board, tarred and feathered, whatever.
But damned, don't I deserve the benefit of the doubt? Don't I get a chance to defend myself and my product? I'm being convicted on the slimmest shreds of the most dubious evidence.
And I am pissed off now. And I am collecting names and e-mail addy's of anyone posting shit about us in any thread and if you're in Butters database, you are cut off forever.
I am truly pissed off, that I can't go away on vacation for a fokking week without shit like this happening. What, I don't get a break? I can't have a good time or a life without shit life this happening? This timing wasn't deliberate now was it?!?
Unreal, I have always come through for EVERY customer of mine, even when it costs me out of pockect. If someone's order is screwed up, they make it back in spades. If it is late, they get it doubled. And now because some William WallASS says my gear is bunk on every board (ever wonder why he never posted the scan on the boards but rather put links back to HIS board where he is the ADMIN and they have like 2000 posts total and 200 members?) it automatically is because he posts some scan that my 5 year old daughter could make in 10 minutes using Microsoft Office products?
CALL SRCS and ask to verify the scan. They will NOT do it!!! How very convenient for Mr. WallASS and his friends, isn't it?
Forget it, I am not dealing with this shit again. I'm posting a lab scan (with a letterhead and signature, I have to use SRCS even though I don't want to because WallASS claims he did and we need to be consistent) when I get back proving the PrimoMAX is legit, the stuff is being sent overnight to the lab, they will have a scan for me on Monday the 14th, the earliest I can get it from them. You have any idea how much this is costing me to do from where I am now?
And once I settle this shit and show that the PrimoMAX contains 200mg/ml methenolone enanthate +/- 5% either way I am dropping this issues and any doubters like flies.
And the business model is going to change. Sorry, I realized a lot today via e-mails from a alot of people. This is my vacation time I am doing this shit on. It's not fair to me, Butters, my kid, this is just taking up too much time. We're off the boards when I get back and we're only dealing with customers we know are solid. And we're not opening the doors up EVER again. You want to be a customer but aren't now? You'll need two (2) existing bros on my approved list to refer you to us personally. No exceptions. I'd rather have 500-1000 loyal bros who order $1K at a time then 6,000 hysterical shitheads ordering single bottles who freak out the second someone posts some dubious crap about me without giving me the chance to defend myself.
The retail end of Red Star is retiring FOR SURE. Wholesale only when I get back. If you are an approved customer and not slamming me here or at Anabolex or OSBB or wherever, you're good to go and you'll probably like the new service we're working out. The rest of you...pucker up and give my hind side a nice long smoocheroonie!!! GMUNK, they are ALL yours, enjoy them.
And WallASS, you're not the hero you think you are or want people to think you are, friend. You're a sycophant who is pissed because I would not kiss your ass way back when and you've had it in for me since that time. And now that a certain someone has come around with some money and a new board (and wait, did I hear he will have his own lab too?) you're trying to take a swing at me, the big guy, eh?
I'm not going anywhere, Wally...I've cut farts that caused me more stink than you will.
I'm NOT posting again until I get the results of the lab tests back from SRCS and have them scanned.
Frankly, I don't see the point. Either my stuff is as I say it is or it is not. If you used the PrimoMAX and don't think it has ANY steroids in it (never mind methenolone enanthate) then here is your chance to take a swing at me. If you are an up and coming bootlegger who wants to bash me with the hopes you'll get some extra sales out of it, then go for it (hear that Wally and crew?).
But until I get the labs back, everything you say and do is just a bunch of posturing. And when I get the results back, be sure and bend over, OK?
Phil
