Does more body fat increase dihydrotestosterone levels?

[Oceano]

I was wondering if any of you guys knew the answer to this question.

Also, what is the purpose of DHT in the body?

 

[Mavafanculo]

apparantly fat and dihydrotestosterone are inversely correlated.

more fat less d.h.t.


Visceral and Subcutaneous Adipose Tissue Assessed by Magnetic Resonance Imaging in Relation to Circulating Androgens, Sex Hormone-Binding Globulin, and Luteinizing Hormone in Young Men

Torben Leo Nielsen, Claus Hagen, Kristian Wraae, Kim Brixen, Per Hyltoft Petersen, Egil Haug, Rasmus Larsen and Marianne Andersen
Department of Endocrinology (T.L.N., C.H., K.W., K.B., M.A.), Odense University Hospital, 5250 Odense SV, Denmark; Norwegian Quality Improvement of Primary Care Laboratories (P.H.P.), Division for General Practice, University of Bergen, 5020 Bergen, Norway; Hormone Laboratory (E.H.), Aker University Hospital, 0514 Oslo, Norway; and Department of Informatics and Mathematical Modeling (R.L.), Technical University of Denmark, Copenhagen, 2800 Kongens Lyngby, Denmark

Address all correspondence and requests for reprints to: Torben Leo Nielsen, Dyrupgardvaenget 76, 5250 Odense SV, Denmark. E-mail: [email protected].

Context: No large studies of young men have examined circulating sex hormones in relation to visceral and sc adipose tissues.

Objective: The aim of this study was to investigate the role of visceral adipose tissue and sc adipose tissue on circulating sex hormones and the impact of obesity on sex hormone reference intervals.

Design, Setting, and Participants: Population-based study of 783 Danish 20- to 29-yr-old men was performed using dual-energy x-ray absorptiometry in all men and magnetic resonance imaging in 406 men.

Main Outcome Measures: Total, bioavailable, and free testosterone, dihydrotestosterone (dihydrotestosterone), total and bioavailable estradiol, sex hormone binding globulin , and lh - leutenizing hormone - - leutenizing hormone - - leutenizing hormone - were measured.

Results: In multiple regressions, visceral adipose tissue was an independent, inverse correlate of bioavailable and free testosterone. Subcutaneous adipose tissue correlated negatively with sex hormone binding globulin and positively with bioavailable estradiol adjusted for total testosterone. Both visceral adipose tissue and sc adipose tissue correlated inversely with total testosterone and dihydrotestosterone. Adjusting for sex hormone binding globulin , only visceral adipose tissue remained significantly correlated. Low total testosterone in viscerally obese men was not accompanied by increased LH. The androgen reference intervals were significantly displaced toward lower limits in obese vs. nonobese men (total testosterone: 8.5–29.3 vs. 12.5–37.6 nmol/liter; bioavailable testosterone: 6.1–16.9 vs. 7.6–20.7 nmol/liter; free testosterone: 0.23–0.67 vs. 0.29–0.78 nmol/liter; and DHT: 0.63–2.5 vs. 0.85–3.2 nmol/liter), whereas total estradiol (36.5–166 pmol/liter) and bioavailable estradiol (23.4–120 pmol/liter) reference intervals were not. In obese men, 22.9% had total testosterone less than 12.5 nmol/liter.

Conclusions: Visceral adipose tissues correlate independently with bioavailable and free testosterone in young men. The inverse relationship between total testosterone and sc adipose tissue seems to be accounted for by variations in SHBG. The reference intervals for total testosterone, bioavailable testosterone, free testosterone, and DHT are displaced toward lower limits in obese men.

 

[Oceano]

Thats interesting. So body fat reduces all androgens effectively.

However, eating dietary fat lowers SHBG which means less testosterone is bound thus releasing more T to act upon tissues.

Would there then be more DHT free to act upon body tissue?

 

[Mavafanculo]

dont know. scanning tru some studies quickly it looks like many showed no corellation, some showed a temporary positive corellation betweeen dietary fat and total test / free test. You'd have to take some time and read tru lots of studies and try to form an opinion.

if what you say is true, taken with the fact that visceral fat lowers androgens and dietary fat transiently raises free test, the two may be the body trying to maintain homeostatic balance. but basically

anybody have any thoughts?

 

[OMEGA]

Fat = more Estrogen

 

[st8grad]

I was wondering if any of you guys knew the answer to this question.

Also, what is the purpose of dihydrotestosterone in the body?

Body fat will increase D.H.T. if you mean damn huge titties.

 

[Oceano]

Well, from the studies I have read, cutting down dietary fat cuts T and dihydrotestosterone.

Fat in the diet (& DHT) is implicated in acne, hair loss and prostate problems.

I guess its difficult to know if increased bodyfat would also contribute to these problems.

 

[SuperOne]

Okay so which has a greater effect on fat burning, DHT or Testosterone?

 

[SuperOne]

Also, do you need DHT for a rock hard, tight body?


If somebody were to take Finesteride for hairloss and reduce their DHT, would that results in a more softer look? Or is it possible to still have a rock hard/tight body when inhibiting DHT?


Mavafanculo, what do you think?


BTW im Italian and love your name lol.

 

[Primordial Performance]

Also, do you need dihydrotestosterone for a rock hard, tight body?


If somebody were to take Finesteride for hairloss and reduce their DHT, would that results in a more softer look? Or is it possible to still have a rock hard/tight body when inhibiting DHT?


Mavafanculo, what do you think?


BTW im Italian and love your name lol.

Yes, absolutely.

DHT is the yin of the yang of Estrogen.

-Pp

 

[holy ghost]

I used to think mavas name was a bad word lol

 

[OMEGA]

it is

 

[Mavafanculo]

Also, do you need dihydrotestosterone for a rock hard, tight body?


If somebody were to take Finesteride for hairloss and reduce their DHT, would that results in a more softer look? Or is it possible to still have a rock hard/tight body when inhibiting DHT?

Mavafanculo, what do you think?

BTW im Italian and love your name lol.

ixnay on the vafanculmay lol

look at what happens when you raise dht or lower dht in the body.

1) effects of masteron and/or proviron on the body (both of which are roughly dht analogues) , hard look, low water, strenght, etc

2) the listed side effects of finasteride/proscar which lowers dht
->
Impotence
Decreased Libido
Decreased Volume of Ejaculate
Ejaculation Disorder
Breast Enlargement
Breast Tenderness

 

[Mavafanculo]

it is

ixnay lol

 

[SuperOne]

Thanks Mava & Pp, thats what i thought.


Though i was wondering if i could get the same hard/dry effect on body comp that dihydrotestosterone has, using an aromatase inhibiter along with Finesteride?

 

[Mavafanculo]

beats me lol.

I'd guess lowering estrogen wouldnt give you the dihydrotestosterone positive effects, just would perhaps minimize some downside of lowered dihydrotestosterone.

generally speaking the minimalist approch is best/safest when mucking around with your body chemistry and hormone balance whether by amino acids, herbs or drugs

 

[Notorious_BIG]

Fat in the diet (& dihydrotestosterone) is implicated in acne, hair loss and prostate problems.

the hair loss concerns me
and too bad we cant just lose weight(i.e. reduce bodyfat) and regrow hair

 

[Oceano]

the hair loss concerns me
and too bad we cant just lose weight(i.e. reduce bodyfat) and regrow hair

Well technically, reducing dietary fat and bodyfat should benefit hair as too much of either causes overactivity of the sebaceous glands and a potential increase in 5 alpha reductase.