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does clenbuterol increase stamina for running and jogging?

I don't know if thermogenic properties would have anything to do with it. I think I remember reading somewhere that clen depleats glycogen stores, which, of course would decrease your aerobic ability. Does anyone know for sure? Furthermore, does it effect VO2 max?
 
IMO, fuck no. It oxidizes the blood and makes you tired quicker. Take lots of anti-oxidants while cycling clen and be ready to lose some strength.
 
MaxBiceps said:
IMO, fuck no. It oxidizes the blood and makes you tired quicker. Take lots of anti-oxidants while cycling clen and be ready to lose some strength.

Max I totally agree. I have been on clen for a week now and I am yawning constantly. My strength is still very good, but I actually feel lethargic. The funny thing is that temperature is up about a degree. The clen is working but my stamina isn't improved.
 
The_Eviscerator said:


Max I totally agree. I have been on clen for a week now and I am yawning constantly. My strength is still very good, but I actually feel lethargic. The funny thing is that temperature is up about a degree. The clen is working but my stamina isn't improved.

That's great that your strength is still up, evisc. Make sure you take alot of vitamins c and e while on to help keep your blood oxygen rich. EPO works great.....if you can get your hands on it. BTW, How's that winter cycle you were planning coming along? Have you started it yet?
 
What? Clen oxidizes the blood? That sounds very bad. How do you know this Max? Please give as many details as possible.
 
My personal experience

with clen was that it did not effect my stamina in terms of running. Of course, as asserted, it is a stimulant, and good music + stimulant usually = good run. I also supplemented with 2 banannas per day, one in the a.m. about 1 hour after I took my first dose, and one in the p.m. about 25 minutes before I ran again ( I was doing two sessions of cardio as clen is anti-catabolic). Of course, i was on a restricted calorie diet, so I did lose some strength and muscle mass, but I truly believe the clen helped keep me from losing a lot of what I would have. my temp throughout the 14 day cycle averaged 99.7 degrees (I took it twice a day every day throughout), but except for one isolated incident (I do not think I got enough calories for a copuple days where I was really busy) I never felt lethargic. Just my own personal experience.
 
ray_ivory said:
does clenbuterol increase stamina for running and jogging?

Yes (from my personal experience). It's a stimulant and anybody telling you it makes him tired never used Clen (maybe they had some fake). Of course over time the effect will weaken but you should use it only for 2 weeks in a row anyway and at increasing dosage you'll be experiencing its stimulating effect the whole 2 weeks.
 
athlete03 said:
What? Clen oxidizes the blood? That sounds very bad. How do you know this Max? Please give as many details as possible.

Well, clen used to be used as an asthma medicince, and it is a bronchial dialator, so it will put more oxygen in your blood

Cyclone
 
From my personnal experience, clen made me much stronger and cardio was so much easier.

Those who say they get tired from clen, are really using superclen. The keto in that drug makes you extremely lethargic. I had non-stop energy on clen.

So in my opinion, it would definetely help.
 
Max Biceps.....You say Clenbuterol "oxidizes blood"??? How does that work...

My memory is a bit hazy but from what I remember from Bio I my freshman year of college an oxidation reaction needs to things.
An anion to oxidize the reducing agent. And a reducing agent (cation) that oxidizes. In order for anything to oxidize there must be a exchange in free ions (H +)...hydrogen. So...what happens is the ion from reducing agent forms an ionic bond (hydrogen bond) with the negative charged part of the oxidizing agent. (The oxidizing agent isnt really negatively charged....but due to its structural formula it has a polar and non polar end....the polar end being the charged part of the molecule). So...when this happens...the oxidinzing agent is reduced...meaning it just has one less ion. That is what oxidation is. I didnt know this could happen in human blood...I would think most human dont have biological ample amount of free ions in their blood to cause this. At least I hope not..that would be fatal. Also human blood has other chemicals that prevent inbalances and cells have organelles (peroxisomes) that would prevent anything like this from happening And....if clenbuterol adds oxygen to the blood through respiration the only thing that might cause is headaches and maybe a change in hemoglobin levels. Higher hemoglobin level and platelets is what causes higher levels of endurance in runners. This is the idea behind blood doping.
 
Clen negatively effects lung tissue? Holy shit! You're about to start a panic! I know it's a bronchiodialator. Do you know if the ill effects are short term or permanent? I'm scared.
 
CycloneHWT said:


Well, clen used to be used as an asthma medicince, and it is a bronchial dialator, so it will put more oxygen in your blood

Cyclone



YES! YES! YES! Finally somebody with brains on this thread! All asthma medication is used to EXPAND your lungs, so YES - you'll get more oxygen. Feeling tired is caused by beta-2 receptor stimulation in your PANCREAS, so it may fuck your blood sugar levels a bit..
 
While on Clen...I played on my ice hockey team.NOT GOOD. Completely dead after first shift. I usuall play 45 minutes per game. Now I was only able to finist 3 shifts.Horrilble...I was back to my old self during my ECA stack week.FYI
 
As Clen hardens and leans you up it seems natural to associate with aerobic performance.

But it doesn't. I don't know the science but what bigbazooka and usfguy say seems to add up.

It can knock me for six [TRANSLATION- feel like I'm the ball and have been hit for a home run] after use and leave me lethargic. When it comes to aerobic my running suffers. High heartrate before you even start doesn't help.

But my set/rep strength go sky high. maybe this is the oxidization of the blood benefiting me. I only do it post-course so it could be I'm peaking post-cycle, but I'm sure the clen boosts me hugely for mid-range reps.

I had put this to the anti-catabolic effect, but most people on elite assure that is a myth. Whatever the reason, I lift more.
 
Clen cuts me up fast, but it makes me "flat" in the weight room. I can't tell if the small loss in strength is due to true reduction in stamina or if it's from just being a bit flat.

And I don't use the Clen/Keto mixtures. I do 100 mcg's of clen at 7:00 AM and then do 1 g of Keto around 10:00 PM -- so one is day and one is night.
 
massatronic said:
As Clen hardens and leans you up it seems natural to associate with aerobic performance.

But it doesn't. I don't know the science but what bigbazooka and usfguy say seems to add up.

It can knock me for six [TRANSLATION- feel like I'm the ball and have been hit for a home run] after use and leave me lethargic. When it comes to aerobic my running suffers. High heartrate before you even start doesn't help.

But my set/rep strength go sky high. maybe this is the oxidization of the blood benefiting me. I only do it post-course so it could be I'm peaking post-cycle, but I'm sure the clen boosts me hugely for mid-range reps.

I had put this to the anti-catabolic effect, but most people on elite assure that is a myth. Whatever the reason, I lift more.

Clenbuterol relaxes certain muscle/connective tissue/whatever (I absolutely can't remember what it is) in your throat/lungs, which makes it easier to breathe. Therefore, it isn't necessarily wrong to associate clenbuterol with higher aerobic performance, since aerobic performance depends on oxygen.

It does have the exact opposite effects in other parts of your body (specially in high quantities, which is why it might not be the greatest stimulant to boost performance. I am sure that in small quantities it can be helpful, and I know that certain athletes take it to increase performance.
 
I've used LTL liquid clen. Had massive shakes..:)

I compete in cycling. I can tell you that it had a negative effect on my performance, and I too was yawning all day long.
Maybe we feel tired on it because we aren't getting as deep a sleep at night? I have no idea, but I absolutely had less energy during the day.
 
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