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Does AS stimulate involuntary muscles, like the heart?

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Just wondering if muscles like the heart and diaphram fall subject to similair growth effects that we usually associate with our voluntary muscles.
 
what do mean by stimulate?

the size of the left ventricular wall of the heart is increased with aas use, dont know about the diaphram.
 
Tuna Guy said:
what do mean by stimulate?

the size of the left ventricular wall of the heart is increased with aas use, dont know about the diaphram.

Yeah but they are saying that about runners now too whom don't use AAS. Oh well.
 
Tuna, please elaborate in your comments. You are saying that the wall making up the ventrical increases in size while the overall effeciency (volume pumped per beat) decreases wih AS use? How so?

I don't think you understand my question. Basically all I'm asking is strictly about involuntary muscle tissue. Does it grow like other muscle tissue while on AS?
 
AS induced growth is relegated mainly to skeletal muscle cells. It is also resultant typically due to break down of that muscle. Thus, it would not effect muscles like the heart and diaphragm as they are made up of skeletal muscle mass, nor are you breaking them down by weight resistant excercise. The following summarizes the mechanism through which AS works.

"One of these primary metabolic changes is increased protein synthesis and nitrogen retention, leading to increased size and strength of the skeletal muscle cell. The connection of a steroid molecule and receptor site is fleeting: once the steroid molecule delivers its cellular command, it moves on to other receptor sites, delivering its message over and over until it is converted into another compound or is excreted in the urine. This capacity of androgens to be converted into other substances by chemical reactions and enzymes within certain tissues of the body will be extremely significant later when we discuss potential side effects (see Health Risks section).

Anabolics also enhance size and strength through a different mechanism. Intense training causes the body to produce increased levels of cortisol, a catabolic substance that causes muscle tissue breakdown. Anabolics have an anticatabolic effect; that is, they prevent the breakdown of muscle tissue by displacing cortisol from its receptors. Consequently, recovery processes are speeded up and injuries, including the microscopic muscle damage incurred from heavy training, heal faster. Some authorities believe that the anticatabolic properties of steroids may be of equal significance to the anabolic properties. "
 
Heart muscle is a special muscle it is cardiac muscle not skelatal and it will increase with steroid use and heavy lifting. Like someone else has mentioned recent studies have showen that cardiac muscle also increases in runners and non steroid using lifters as well. This may not be bad, many studies have concluded that this makes a more efficient heart. It differs from a heart that is enlarged due to disease. The only implication that steroid ude now has in heart disease is in plaque formation in the arteries, but thid could be more diet related, thr jury is still out on this. Some new studies on test injections tend to prove the opposite.
 
I just think it kinda interesting that we may actually be improving the strength and effeciency of these muscles like the heart and don't even know it--assuming that AS does have some growth effects on them.
 
Like someone else has mentioned recent studies have showen that cardiac muscle also increases in runners and non steroid using lifters as well.

Oh come on, this is new news to you? That is the biggest reason for Cardio excercises- to strengthen the heart. ANY excercise both aerobic or anaerobic helps to strengthen the heart muscle. The question asked if AS specifically strengthened the heart. First off, studies show that AS only works in subject who are regularly excercising. I am sure that AS would have some sort of effect on the heart muscle if someone is excercising, but AS's primary mechanism is to strengthen SKELETAL muscle.
 
yes im a doc doc...look it up on medline. All the published results are there for Oxandrolone. Actually there are only 2 but there is other literature on the subject. The Ox strengthens the diaphragm and decreases the patient's time on a ventilator and lessens the risk and severity of pneumonia.

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Jguns if your not exercising, what the fuck are you using anabolics for, a limp dick? We were talking about increase in heart size not just heart strength anyhow.:o RU 486 is mainly used for abortion in the USA but is also used for it's anticatabolic effects as well. All meds have side effects.
 
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