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Do you value an animal's life over a human's life?

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I think human life is more precious than animal life. Animal activists annoy the hell outta me. Even hippies too. I think their lives are less important than animal life. Is anybody else fed up with these PC pieces of shit?
 
I don't think it can be generalized like that. Some animals are different than others. For thousands of years humans have had a special bond with dogs, cats, and horses. They have been bread to be our companions and workers. So in a sense I would say that these animals have a value equal to humans. I wouldn't hesitate to use deadly force to protect my dog. Cows, chickens, etc. are food. PETA has it right when they protest puppy farms and inhumane conditions for food animals. They fuck up when they bitch about someone eating a rat on that tv show Survivor.
 
Not knowing anything about the person then yes, a person's life is always more valuable...we are more sentient ... just as an animal's life is more valuable than say a tree's existence
 
Animals should not be killed without reason, but if one has to choose between 1 human and the lifes of a thousand dogs, it should be clear what to do.

SInce this probably has to do with the "officer shoots a dog" thread, i think the officer did not act correctly, but that surely is no crime for which he should go to jail.
 
For me it depends. If we are comparing the life of a 50 yr old peice of shit to that of a cute little puppy, the puppy wins. If we're comparing a baby boy or girl to that of a deer, well take a guess. I guess human babys IMO take precedence over all. I don't feel as badly for someone older who has lead part or most of their life, as I do for a defenseless animal. But then again I aint losing any sleep over it either.
 
KAYNE and I got in to a nice heated arguement about this one...

Search for "I just ruined someones thanksgiving for life"

It is a thread started my MP5.

I guess it really depends on the situation. When I see a stray dog that looks like it needs help, I will do anything I can to help it.

When I see some piece of shit bum holding a sign about how he's hungry, I tell the lazy punk to get a job and earn money, just like the rest of us.

(edited for spelling)
 
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I think it's all relative. I mean, I care(d) so much about my German Shepherd and cried myself to sleep when she was gone. I also cried when my grandfather died. I truly think that it's the situation that ultimately determines my thoughts and reactions about humans/animals.

I just really feel for animals, because most of the time they can't tell you that they are hurting...or where. With the exception of limping or something like that. They don't complain. They are soft, furry, and constantly give you attention...but there are also those that can bite your head off.

I will say this. I don't value an animal's life more than a human's, but it is much easier for me to deal with a human dying than an animal (with the exception of my family, of course). I guess that's why I changed my major from pre-vet to Nursing.
 
Because I believe that most people are fucking assholes and If infact said person was and it was my dog or pet then I would pick the animal

seriously does your dog make comments about you,does it judge you on looks? no it loves you and gives you companionship where people are stereotypical assholes

maybe Im fucked up but I hate people in general
 
Ok oackles....since you feel that way I assume you would trade your life for your dog?
 
We're all animals. What people value is their business as long as they don't kill other people.
 
EXCLUDING MY FAMILY AND VERY VERY CLOSE FRIENDS, IF I HAD TO CHOOSE BETWEEN SOMEONE I DIDNT KNOW AND MY SON (DOG) DYING, I WOULD CHOOSE THAT PERSON I DIDNT KNOW TO DIE.




KAYNE
 
It depends -

1. family members and friends are more important than any animals life

2. serial killers - sorry but I'd much rather see them die than my pet dog

And if my pet dog died, I would be devastated for a long time since I've lived with her for 8 years, but if I hear that some person I've never met was shot somewhere 1000 miles away from where I live, it wouldn't affect me nearly as much.
 
KAYNE said:
EXCLUDING MY FAMILY AND VERY VERY CLOSE FRIENDS, IF I HAD TO CHOOSE BETWEEN SOMEONE I DIDNT KNOW AND MY SON (DOG) DYING, I WOULD CHOOSE THAT PERSON I DIDNT KNOW TO DIE.




KAYNE
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Hey, what is my ex-wife doing in your avatar?
 
I have killed literally hundreds of animals in my lifetime. I used to run a trap line and i have been hunting since i was 12. I do have to say i respect animals in a lot of ways more than most people though. I am not going to kill anyone, but i surely would not care if certain people die. I feel much worse when i see a dead fox or something on the highway, or a doe and a fawn that got hit by a car. I can honestly say there are people that if i heard die i would smile.
 
I can't say that. Almost everyone has someone that loves them. I do detest a lot of people's actions and want them to pay the price. I do hate, but I wish that I didn't, it's not a good feeling.
 
KAYNE said:
EXCLUDING MY FAMILY AND VERY VERY CLOSE FRIENDS, IF I HAD TO CHOOSE BETWEEN SOMEONE I DIDNT KNOW AND MY SON (DOG) DYING, I WOULD CHOOSE THAT PERSON I DIDNT KNOW TO DIE.
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A possible issue here is not animal vs. human life, it’s about our pain vs. someone else’s pain. Who wouldn’t prefer someone else deal with pain if we actually had a choice?

Try this scenario:

You take your dog to the veterinarian one day. After a checkup your vet tells you that there is a man in your town who has a rare condition and is desperately in need of a new liver. He tells you that this man cannot have a liver transplant because he is not strong enough to handle the surgery. However, he tells you that some recent advancements in biotechnology allow animal organs and cells to be used successfully in humans for situations just like this. The vet then tells you your dog has an extremely rare blood type (the only one known) and that it matches that of the man whose liver is failing. The vet says that they can isolate a blood-based enzyme from the dog which can reverse the man’s liver failure but that the dog will not survive the harvesting of that enzyme. The vet says that he has to have your permission to even call the medical technologists and tell them there is a match. You know nothing about the man other that what the vet just told you. Do you give your permission?
 
Society and Biblical teachings show that Animals are here for our benefit and use.

Whether they are used as Food, Workers, Companions or just to enjoy watching them in the wild.

Humans are no more important biologically than a fruit fly.
We are the caretakers of the rest of the animal kingdom.

An animals worth whether its a Homosapien or a Siamese cat depends on the situation and the person that is emotionally attached to them.

Generally speaking though, as humans are sentient and in-charge
of protecting the earth, they are more important in a life debate IMO
 
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its kinda funny, but when im watching a movie and 2000 guys get their heads blown off i dont even flinch, but as soon as a little cat or dog's life is threatened, i get all edgey and scared for the animal!
hah

and when i hear about people abusing their pets, i get extremely pissed off
 
BackDoc said:


A possible issue here is not animal vs. human life, it’s about our pain vs. someone else’s pain. Who wouldn’t prefer someone else deal with pain if we actually had a choice?

Try this scenario:

You take your dog to the veterinarian one day. After a checkup your vet tells you that there is a man in your town who has a rare condition and is desperately in need of a new liver. He tells you that this man cannot have a liver transplant because he is not strong enough to handle the surgery. However, he tells you that some recent advancements in biotechnology allow animal organs and cells to be used successfully in humans for situations just like this. The vet then tells you your dog has an extremely rare blood type (the only one known) and that it matches that of the man whose liver is failing. The vet says that they can isolate a blood-based enzyme from the dog which can reverse the man’s liver failure but that the dog will not survive the harvesting of that enzyme. The vet says that he has to have your permission to even call the medical technologists and tell them there is a match. You know nothing about the man other that what the vet just told you. Do you give your permission?
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YOU ARE GOING TO THINK I SOUND LIKE AN ASSHOLE HERE, BUT IF THAT MAN ISNT A CLOSE CLOSE FRIEND OR FAMILY MEMBER (WHICH YOU SAID HE WASNT), I WOULD NOT GIVE MY PERMISSION. I THINK OF MY DOG AS MY SON AND BASICALLY WOULD TREAT HIM AS SUCH.

NO, I COULDNT GIVE MY PERMISSION KNOWING I WOULD BE KILLING MY SON.



KAYNE
 
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