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Do you think Jane Fonda should be forgiven?

PICK3

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She has publicly professed on many occasions that, “Sitting on an enemy aircraft gun was a betrayal ... the largest lapse of judgment that I can even imagine,"

She’s nearly 70 years old now and has become a Christian.

Should she ever be forgiven?
 
I dont know if its for us to forgive. The men who suffered and died because of her actions are the ones who need to determine forgiveness.

I can forgive her and still recognize she was a traitor to her country and at minimum such should be pointed out every time she opens her mouth to offer some political statement
 
Yes, I think we should forgive her because the Bible tells us to forgive or we can't be forgiven. Now, why she helped loser charlie the communist in the first place is what I want to know.
 
curling said:
Yes, I think we should forgive her because the Bible tells us to forgive or we can't be forgiven. Now, why she helped loser charlie the communist in the first place is what I want to know.
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Go buy here book. It's all in there.

Plus thats a very good attitude you have there.
 
curling said:
You would not you're ole lady would kill ya.
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hes married??
dang stop giving me sexual innuendo karma messages then :worried:
 
i'm a fairly forgiving person, HOWEVER

having served my country in a foreign war i have nothing but disdain/anger/sadness in my heart for those that have turned their cheek on our country.
 
jerseyart said:
I dont know if its for us to forgive. The men who suffered and died because of her actions are the ones who need to determine forgiveness.
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"her actions"........or the actions of the men in office (johnson, nixon) who put them there in the first place? :rolleyes:
 
rnch said:
"her actions"........or the actions of the men in office (johnson, nixon) who put them there in the first place? :rolleyes:
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Sorry bor, but thats idiocy.

We live in a democratci republic. We all get a chance to vote, and the majority wins. In time of war the whole country pulls together once the decision has been made.

If she wished to express her opinion thats fine. But giving aid and comfort to the enemy, while endangering our troops, is treason.

That was her action, and for that she is justifiably reviled
 
jerseyart said:
Sorry bor, but thats idiocy.

We live in a democratci republic. We all get a chance to vote, and the majority wins. In time of war the whole country pulls together once the decision has been made..........
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"the whole country pulls together"? not on viet nam! or the current presidential stupidity, for that matter.....

dude........you must not read much history...... :worried:
 
coverguy said:
i'm a fairly forgiving person, HOWEVER

having served my country in a foreign war i have nothing but disdain/anger/sadness in my heart for those that have turned their cheek on our country.
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I'm not saying she should be forgiven. From what I researched she's been quoted with many anti-military sentiments and being prior service myself that doesn't sit well. Also, it took her a long time to apologize.

If you oppose a military action speak out against the people who sent the troops ... not the men in uniform.
 
Here's her apology:

She was nicknamed 'Hanoi Jane' but recently expressed regret at her support for the Viet-Cong, saying, "It hurt so many soldiers. It galvanised such hostility. It was the most horrible thing I could possibly have done. It was just thoughtless."

http://www.answers.com/topic/jane-fonda
 
Jane Fonda wasn't the only one who supposedly spoke out against the troops -- ordinary American citizens booed the soldiers that came back from Viet Nam, some even spit on them. Let's not forget that, unlike the soldiers in this current war, the Viet Nam vets were not welcomed back with open arms and parades with balloons and confetti by their fellow Americans. Are we forgiving them also...?
 
mitchell1660 said:
Jane Fonda wasn't the only one who supposedly spoke out against the troops -- ordinary American citizens booed the soldiers that came back from Viet Nam, some even spit on them. Let's not forget that, unlike the soldiers in this current war, the Viet Nam vets were not welcomed back with open arms and parades with balloons and confetti by their fellow Americans. Are we forgiving them also...?
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All that is bad enough.

But she was actually visiting the enmy, being photographed on their equipment and with POW's, and undermining our efforts inb Vietnam

Fuck her as far as Im concerned. Good men suffered because of her. Shes a traitor and a low life and is lucky she wasnt shot
 
Ulcasterdropout said:
what did she do?
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http://www.moorej.org/jane/

July 1972,
Jane Fonda was photographed sitting on a North Vietnamese Anti Aircraft Gun that was used to shoot at American servicemen and their planes.

But most disturbing to me:

1973
When the POWs returned in early 1973 and detailed the torture and mistreatment, she accused them of lying.
Senator John McCain had both his arms broken. She calls McCain a liar! (AFJ,May'88--Personalities)
 
That was some great shit. Vets where tortured thanks to her. That guy is lucky he only got disorderly conduct. I spat in a guys face one time and almost got assault. LUckily it got dropped.

Hopfully more people with spit on her if they are only giving out disorderly conducts now.



jerkbox said:
i dunno, but that dude spitting in her face was hilarious
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bullett said:
There are tons of Vietnam Vets out there who would kill her on site.
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and tons who thank her. :)

do you realy lack the info about Vietnam?

pssst...bad war there...bad bad war.
 
CFZB said:
and tons who thank her. :)

do you realy lack the info about Vietnam?

pssst...bad war there...bad bad war.
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oh c'mon dude......you're not gonna seriously align yourself with jane fonda are you?
 
jerkbox said:
oh c'mon dude......you're not gonna seriously align yourself with jane fonda are you?
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I dont know much about her other than some people dont like her because she stood out against vietnam.

my dad was in vietnam.

I happen to dislike that war .....a lot.

dont know what else to tell you.
 
PICK3 said:
She has publicly professed on many occasions that, “Sitting on an enemy aircraft gun was a betrayal ... the largest lapse of judgment that I can even imagine,"

She’s nearly 70 years old now and has become a Christian.

Should she ever be forgiven?
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Never.

She is "the unforgiven".....



DIV
 
I'd do it for some Protien Factory samples...:D
Really, I don't even have an ounce of patriotism.
 
DIVISION said:
At times I feel like stuffing you in the corner with a bottle of Tren and a bag full of insulin needles......




DIV
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I'd stuff you in a locker ;)
 
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ANYONE here that says that they wouldnt hit it ....is a fuggin LIAR.
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If she wasn't a traitor then yes I'd hit. I hope her house catches fire with her in it, and she lives. Then just as she is through therapy an 18 wheeler smashes her car killing her, and condeming her to the Acheron.
 
Rex said:
If she wasn't a traitor then yes I'd hit. I hope her house catches fire with her in it, and she lives. Then just as she is through therapy an 18 wheeler smashes her car killing her, and condeming her to the Acheron.
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dude...didnt you hear?

vietnam was bad.
 
Rex said:
If she wasn't a traitor then yes I'd hit. I hope her house catches fire with her in it, and she lives. Then just as she is through therapy an 18 wheeler smashes her car killing her, and condeming her to the Acheron.
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She's got grudge fuck written all over that pretty little face.
 
Rex said:
And that justifies Hanoi Jane's actions how?
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Confusing times ,that vietnam .....full of lies I hear.

Reminds me of something...hmmmm....let me think.*scratches head*
 
Rex said:
If she wasn't a traitor then yes I'd hit. I hope her house catches fire with her in it, and she lives. Then just as she is through therapy an 18 wheeler smashes her car killing her, and condeming her to the Acheron.
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lol...that's funny...so much rage...but I guess people have said worse about GW...
 
EnderJE said:
lol...that's funny...so much rage...but I guess people have said worse about GW...
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Enderpet.......he's a Marine......what do you think he's going to say?

Use your head, Enders.....




DIV
 
DIVISION said:
Enderpet.......he's a Marine......what do you think he's going to say?

Use your head, Enders.....

DIV
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But, c'mon, its funny. Its like how people want to shoot at abortion doctors. That's funny. I think that they other side should shoot at anti-abortion leaders to make it even.
 
EnderJE said:
But, c'mon, its funny. Its like how people want to shoot at abortion doctors. That's funny. I think that they other side should shoot at anti-abortion leaders to make it even.
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It's all funny 'till someone gets shot.......




DIV
 
DIVISION said:
It's all funny 'till someone gets shot.......

DIV
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No, its still funny.

Its funnier when people from both sides die...and die...Tupac and Biggie for example. That's funny.
 
EnderJE said:
No, its still funny.

Its funnier when people from both sides die...and die...Tupac and Biggie for example. That's funny.
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Pac and Biggie dying wasn't funny....

It was drama that played to a head and was bound to happen....

I just look at it as fate, not necessarily good or bad.

It just "is".





DIV
 
DIVISION said:
Pac and Biggie dying wasn't funny....

It was drama that played to a head and was bound to happen....

I just look at it as fate, not necessarily good or bad.

It just "is".

DIV
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Personally, I found it funny that they died for something so small. I'm sorry if you didn't.
 
Come on, how many millions of Americans were against the Vietnam war? I fail to see how she provided aid and comfort to the enemy by posing for a photograph. Maybe she just wanted to show that our enemies were human beings also and not just "gooks" or "commie bastards" as our government wanted people to believe. That's the first thing that happens during war is that those who start the war try to make the enemy seem like something less than human. If people understood that the "enemy" were humans too, it would make it more difficult to kill.

Why is it that people who are against wars are seen as villains? Wars are bad for god's sake. People get burned to death, babies get bombs dropped on them. Cities are burned to the ground. How can someone be labelled as a villain for not wanting to take part in such horrible actions?
 
PICK3 said:
She has publicly professed on many occasions that, “Sitting on an enemy aircraft gun was a betrayal ... the largest lapse of judgment that I can even imagine,"

She’s nearly 70 years old now and has become a Christian.

Should she ever be forgiven?
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No.
 
Fast Twitch Fiber said:
Come on, how many millions of Americans were against the Vietnam war? I fail to see how she provided aid and comfort to the enemy by posing for a photograph. Maybe she just wanted to show that our enemies were human beings also and not just "gooks" or "commie bastards" as our government wanted people to believe. That's the first thing that happens during war is that those who start the war try to make the enemy seem like something less than human. If people understood that the "enemy" were humans too, it would make it more difficult to kill.

Why is it that people who are against wars are seen as villains? Wars are bad for god's sake. People get burned to death, babies get bombs dropped on them. Cities are burned to the ground. How can someone be labelled as a villain for not wanting to take part in such horrible actions?
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Easy there, you pinko commie bastard.

:)
 
Fast Twitch Fiber said:
Come on, how many millions of Americans were against the Vietnam war? I fail to see how she provided aid and comfort to the enemy by posing for a photograph. Maybe she just wanted to show that our enemies were human beings also and not just "gooks" or "commie bastards" as our government wanted people to believe. That's the first thing that happens during war is that those who start the war try to make the enemy seem like something less than human. If people understood that the "enemy" were humans too, it would make it more difficult to kill.

Why is it that people who are against wars are seen as villains? Wars are bad for god's sake. People get burned to death, babies get bombs dropped on them. Cities are burned to the ground. How can someone be labelled as a villain for not wanting to take part in such horrible actions?
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Difference between being anti-war and pro-enemy
 
people like her who protested the war (which was complete bullshit in the first place) actually saved american lives by urging legislation to end the war early... I do agree that maybe she went a bit far by aligning herself with the enemy, sometimes you just have to remember that most of America has below 100 iq points... and you really have to lay it out in yellow blue and red...
 
Yeah I'm sure Fonda really strategized from that perspective

:rolleyesandgroan:

She was just "trying to be cool" IMO and going with the cultural flow of the time


Personally I think she's a fucking idiot
 
Fast Twitch Fiber said:
Showing that the enemies are human beings is not really being pro-enemy. If she brought them guns and ammo, that would be a different issue.
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Yeah, but accusing P.O.W.S of lying about being tortured is unforgivable.
 
Fast Twitch Fiber said:
Come on, how many millions of Americans were against the Vietnam war? I fail to see how she provided aid and comfort to the enemy by posing for a photograph. Maybe she just wanted to show that our enemies were human beings also and not just "gooks" or "commie bastards" as our government wanted people to believe. That's the first thing that happens during war is that those who start the war try to make the enemy seem like something less than human. If people understood that the "enemy" were humans too, it would make it more difficult to kill.

Why is it that people who are against wars are seen as villains? Wars are bad for god's sake. People get burned to death, babies get bombs dropped on them. Cities are burned to the ground. How can someone be labelled as a villain for not wanting to take part in such horrible actions?
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you need to read up a bit. the photo wasnt a tenth of it.


Secondly, there is a difference between being agaist a war, and against the troops. She was against the trrops. She believed that the troops were war criminals, they got what they deserved, and the enemy's torture was justified.
 
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