Do you like T3?

[JoNeS]

I've never used this stuff, I've only used CLen, and epehdra, and other otc fat burners.

How good is this stuff? Is it better than clen? I really don't wanna risk permanately fucking up my thyroid......

Do you stack it with clen? Rate all 3 products on a 1-10 scale, clen/t3/epehdra, and then rate CLen stacked with t3

ok thanksssss

 

[jeb0177]

never used it. I bought a bottle of 100 tabs/25mg by cynomel and I still have it I want to use it but when I went to the doctor and told him that I was going to include this t3 into my next cycle of test/dbol/eq he said that it could be really dangerous and fuck up my thyroid gland because it was too much. So i'm planning to use it between my cycle pct after I finished this one with clen. I like clen I use it byitself with caffeine works better but I fuking hate the headaches I get from it. it's worth it though IMO.

 

[fergie]

I just started my first cycle of T3 and wow, this stuff is way better than clen but the only problem is it burns up muscle as well as fat so I dont think I'd use it off.

 

[muscleup]

No point in running t3 unless you are contest dieting. I certainly would not use t3 without some sort od anabolic/androgen to preserve muscle mass.

 

[sparetire]

too risky to mess up the ole thyroid..

 

[ElMatador]

Clen is better choice anyway...

 

[Makavelli]

Clen and T3 are two completely different drugs. T3 is used when your metabolism has slowed due to chronic dieting , which usually happens around week 4-6 of the diet, and should not be used before then. Clen's fat burning abilities are based on the level of T3 in the blood. T3 increases the receptors that clen works on. Thereofore by adding T3 clen can be used continuously.

 

[informed09]

Clen and T3 are two completely different drugs. T3 is used when your metabolism has slowed due to chronic dieting , which usually happens around week 4-6 of the diet, and should not be used before then. Clen's fat burning abilities are based on the level of T3 in the blood. T3 increases the receptors that clen works on. Thereofore by adding T3 clen can be used continuously.[/QUOTE


what is the least amount of T3 needed to increase the receptors that clen works on? For instance would 12.5mcg or 25mcg be sufficiant?

 

[Makavelli]

Clen and T3 are two completely different drugs. T3 is used when your metabolism has slowed due to chronic dieting , which usually happens around week 4-6 of the diet, and should not be used before then. Clen's fat burning abilities are based on the level of T3 in the blood. T3 increases the receptors that clen works on. Thereofore by adding T3 clen can be used continuously.[/QUOTE


what is the least amount of T3 needed to increase the receptors that clen works on? For instance would 12.5mcg or 25mcg be sufficiant?

This depends on the level of receptor degradation that has taken place. If you've been using clen for awhile, I'd go with 75 mcgs/day. The minimum would be 50 mcgs/day.

 

[silverbackn]

Clen and T3 are two completely different drugs. T3 is used when your metabolism has slowed due to chronic dieting , which usually happens around week 4-6 of the diet, and should not be used before then. Clen's fat burning abilities are based on the level of T3 in the blood. T3 increases the receptors that clen works on. Thereofore by adding T3 clen can be used continuously.

Wow, I wasn't aware of that. I knew you could take keto along with clen and it would remain effective. I didn't know t3 rolled like that.

 

[Themachine01]

Wow, I wasn't aware of that. I knew you could take keto along with clen and it would remain effective. I didn't know t3 rolled like that.

Keto helps as well, but that is the reason clen and T3 work so well together. Here is my take on T3, it is a great fat burning drug to a degree, it definately has its risks and its side affects. If your diet is on point and you are using either clen or EC, along with cardio, you can get the same results in 12-16 weeks of dieting without using it and without the risk and the sides, you will also be avoiding the possibility of muscle loss. In the past I have used T3 in the middle of my 16 week diet, but there were flaws in my diet and cardio. T3 can make you really feel flat, and without the proper diet, such as adequate amount of carbs and protein along with anabolics, you will lose muscle. This year I have went without the T3 and am having great results so far, I feel much more muscular and full without using it. The reason I believe for this is that I am adding muscle at this point in my diet from the anabolics since I dont have the T3 burning everything in its path. The anabolics will prevent the burning of muscle, but the T3 will keep you from gaining any while being ran at a high dose. I hope this makes sense, Im not the best at explaining shit. If I decide to do a photoshoot again this year and I feel that I am behind a little, I might use it, but I wont be going up to the amount that I have used in the past which was 100mcg/day.

 

[Makavelli]

Keto helps as well, but that is the reason clen and T3 work so well together. Here is my take on T3, it is a great fat burning drug to a degree, it definately has its risks and its side affects. If your diet is on point and you are using either clen or EC, along with cardio, you can get the same results in 12-16 weeks of dieting without using it and without the risk and the sides, you will also be avoiding the possibility of muscle loss. In the past I have used T3 in the middle of my 16 week diet, but there were flaws in my diet and cardio. T3 can make you really feel flat, and without the proper diet, such as adequate amount of carbs and protein along with anabolics, you will lose muscle. This year I have went without the T3 and am having great results so far, I feel much more muscular and full without using it. The reason I believe for this is that I am adding muscle at this point in my diet from the anabolics since I dont have the T3 burning everything in its path. The anabolics will prevent the burning of muscle, but the T3 will keep you from gaining any while being ran at a high dose. I hope this makes sense, Im not the best at explaining shit. If I decide to do a photoshoot again this year and I feel that I am behind a little, I might use it, but I wont be going up to the amount that I have used in the past which was 100mcg/day.

T3 will flaten you out because it depletes your muscles of glycogen. If your diet is good and you're not overtraining, while employing AAS, you won't lose muscle.

 

[Themachine01]

T3 will flaten you out because it depletes your muscles of glycogen. If your diet is good and you're not overtraining, while employing AAS, you won't lose muscle.

That is correct, but what Im trying to say is that T3 will not allow you to gain any muscle, you might not lose any muscle while employing AAS, but you will not gain any because of the glycogen depletion.

 

[Makavelli]

That is correct, but what Im trying to say is that T3 will not allow you to gain any muscle, you might not lose any muscle while employing AAS, but you will not gain any because of the glycogen depletion.

Yeah, I agree with ya bro. I was just pointing out the reason that you get flat.

 

[informed09]

makavelli- I have been dieting for 5 weeks now and feel like the fat loss has slowed down. Im wondering if it would be usefull to add clen? Because wouldnt the level of T3 in the blood be low already?

 

[Themachine01]

Yeah, I agree with ya bro. I was just pointing out the reason that you get flat.

gotcha

 

[informed09]

machine what are your stats? you look huge

 

[Themachine01]

My stats in that pic are 5'11 210lbs, not sure exactly what my bodyfat was, I was guessing in the range of 6-8%. Im currently in the middle of my diet, 8 weeks in, and am sitting at 225 around 10%BF, much more muscular this year than last, I should be at the same bodyfat as when that pic was taken and should be about 5-10lbs heavier.

 

[artrius]

i've been trying T3, following 3-4 day taper up and 5-7 day taper down. I don't like it, at least at high dosages. My problem is that I have an eating disorder and it aggravates it. Probably not the best idea to use in my case, but I'm young and stupid. Go figure.

 

[artrius]

bump for thoughts on ^^

 

[ÐiÐi-¢rüë£]

I used 200mcg/day, but i don´t like it. When i was using it i'am filling my "power" fall down !!!!

Guys, sorry about my english, i will learn it...heheheheheh

 

[artrius]

I used 200mcg/day, but i don´t like it. When i was using it i'am filling my "power" fall down !!!!

Guys, sorry about my english, i will learn it...heheheheheh

200 mcg?? wow..........

 

[Makavelli]

makavelli- I have been dieting for 5 weeks now and feel like the fat loss has slowed down. Im wondering if it would be usefull to add clen? Because wouldnt the level of T3 in the blood be low already?

It would be useful to start T3, if you are using AAS at the same time. When the level of T3 falls, fat loss will also slow down. At that point add in the T3 to bring your metabolism back to normal, or high normal, which is optimum. After increasing the amount of T3, which should take about a week depending on the max dose you use, add in the clen. The receptors will be ready to go.

 

[Gumaro]

T3 is great. i remember back in the day alot of people would hype it up so much. these days, along wiht deca, it is looked so down upon.

i remember reading that you can use up to 50mcg without expereining any muscleloss while being off of AAS. anyone know if this is true? mods> makavelli?

 

[Makavelli]

T3 is great. i remember back in the day alot of people would hype it up so much. these days, along wiht deca, it is looked so down upon.

i remember reading that you can use up to 50mcg without expereining any muscleloss while being off of AAS. anyone know if this is true? mods> makavelli?

Whether or not you'll lose muscle at 50 mcgs/day depends on several things, the two most important being: 1) Where are your T3 levels now?, and 2) Are you using AAS?

 

[Gumaro]

Whether or not you'll lose muscle at 50 mcgs/day depends on several things, the two most important being: 1) Where are your T3 levels now?, and 2) Are you using AAS?

havent used T3 in awhile and i am not currently dieting so my T3 levels should be normal. as for AAS, not using any. but the article iread (i think t was posted here a few years ago) said that, even without any AAS, T3 at 50mcg will not burn any muscle

 

[informed09]

Makavelli- What is the max length of time to run the T3 if you are on AAS saying that the highest dose would be 50mcg/day?

 

[Makavelli]

Makavelli- What is the max length of time to run the T3 if you are on AAS saying that the highest dose would be 50mcg/day?

50 mcgs/day is a low average dose. You can safely run T3 for several months w/o problems as long as you taper up and down properly. The longer you're on, the longer the taper has to be.

 

[Makavelli]

havent used T3 in awhile and i am not currently dieting so my T3 levels should be normal. as for AAS, not using any. but the article iread (i think t was posted here a few years ago) said that, even without any AAS, T3 at 50mcg will not burn any muscle

I will guarantee you that you will lose muscle if you use 50 mcgs/day and your T3 levels are currently normal w/o using AAS. Even if they are low, using 50 mcgs/day can cause muscle loss. There are a lot of factors to consider, but it's safe to say that you'll be at risk for muscle loss. Please, take my word for this and don't try it. Save yourself the time and muscle by listening to the personal experiences of others.

 

[Themachine01]

I would never take the chance of running T3 without running AAS along with it, you will burn muscle.

 

[informed09]

could you gain muscle while on T3, or is that very unlikely?

 

[NJjuice22]

I like to add it to my cutting cyles, but i never go higher than 50mcg, the flatness,lethargy i got at higher dosages werent worth it to me.

 

[Themachine01]

could you gain muscle while on T3, or is that very unlikely?

Did you read my post on page 1? You might be able to add muscle with the right amount of AAS and a low dose of T3, but the chances are very minimal that you will be able to gain any muscle while running T3 at anything higher than 25mcg per day. It really all depends on the amount of AAS you are running and if your diet is the way it should be to reach your goals, but the T3 will definatley hinder the gains that you would have gotten without it. I have ran T3 at 25mcg while on a bulking cycle and was able to put muscle on, but not as much as without it, but I would never run it any higher than that while trying to add muscle.

 

[silverbackn]

Keto helps as well, but that is the reason clen and T3 work so well together. Here is my take on T3, it is a great fat burning drug to a degree, it definately has its risks and its side affects. If your diet is on point and you are using either clen or EC, along with cardio, you can get the same results in 12-16 weeks of dieting without using it and without the risk and the sides, you will also be avoiding the possibility of muscle loss. In the past I have used T3 in the middle of my 16 week diet, but there were flaws in my diet and cardio. T3 can make you really feel flat, and without the proper diet, such as adequate amount of carbs and protein along with anabolics, you will lose muscle. This year I have went without the T3 and am having great results so far, I feel much more muscular and full without using it. The reason I believe for this is that I am adding muscle at this point in my diet from the anabolics since I dont have the T3 burning everything in its path. The anabolics will prevent the burning of muscle, but the T3 will keep you from gaining any while being ran at a high dose. I hope this makes sense, Im not the best at explaining shit. If I decide to do a photoshoot again this year and I feel that I am behind a little, I might use it, but I wont be going up to the amount that I have used in the past which was 100mcg/day.

I have never used it before. I just recently tried clen for the first time. I have 2 shows this summer, I was thinking about running clen and t3. I am a little wary though, I have a very fast metabolism and I seem to go flat too easily. I think I would lose muscle, which is something a guy 6'1 can't afford to do. I don't want to get stringy. I think I will hold off, I'm around 8% bf right now and I'm still 12 weeks out. I won't need to diet hard, no reason to chance it.