Do I continue my HCG when I end my TRT?

[doublefister]

I have been on TRT for a couple months now going into the 3rd. I originally went in because I was having libido problems and knew it had something to do with my test levels being low. I believe it was from doing some prohormones some time last year. Ends up that I was right and my levels were low so the doc put me on 100mg of test cyp a week and also talked me into some HGH which I didn't mind because I need to get my separated ac joint healed faster.

After reading up on Allthingsmale.com I decided to tell my doc about taking HCG with my TRT treatment and he looked at it and said it was a good idea so I have been following the procedure of taking 250IU injections 2 days prior to my test injections. I do my test injections on Monday so I do my HCG injections on Sat & Sun.

What I would like to know is once I am done with my 12 weeks of TRT when do I actually stop my HCG? Do I continue it? Would I follow Dr. Swale's TRT protocol and stop my HCG 1 week before the end of my TRT? If so, then would I take any Nolvadex or Clomid 2 weeks after my last injection?

 

[thelion2005]

I am confused.

HRT or TRT is forever. It is low dose Test, anti-e and HGH ... every day or week as prescribed by a Dr. There is no end and no pct. Its goal is to raise your test levels and lower esto levels as revealed in blood testing.

A cycle is limited to a set number of weeks. It contains a stack of aas, anti-e, and possibly HGH. At the end of the weekly period, you do pct. The dosages are high because this is for muscle growth. Rarely is a Dr involved.

Which are you on?

I'd like to learn about taking HCG with the testosterone. What is the reason? Better to take HGH?

 

[doublefister]

www.allthingsmale.com You can learn about taking hcg while on trt.

 

[Maxgain]

I am confused.

HRT or TRT is forever. It is low dose Test, anti-e and HGH ... every day or week as prescribed by a Dr. There is no end and no pct. Its goal is to raise your test levels and lower esto levels as revealed in blood testing.

A cycle is limited to a set number of weeks. It contains a stack of aas, anti-e, and possibly HGH. At the end of the weekly period, you do pct. The dosages are high because this is for muscle growth. Rarely is a Dr involved.

Which are you on?

I'd like to learn about taking HCG with the testosterone. What is the reason? Better to take HGH?

HCG is totally different to HGh. By taking exogenous test you supress LH release and functioning of testes HCG is similar to Lh in structure and will restore testes functioning which has shown much better and more physiological results in what is wanted in hrt.

 

[Maxgain]

I have been on TRT for a couple months now going into the 3rd. I originally went in because I was having libido problems and knew it had something to do with my test levels being low. I believe it was from doing some prohormones some time last year. Ends up that I was right and my levels were low so the doc put me on 100mg of test cyp a week and also talked me into some HGH which I didn't mind because I need to get my separated ac joint healed faster.

After reading up on Allthingsmale.com I decided to tell my doc about taking HCG with my TRT treatment and he looked at it and said it was a good idea so I have been following the procedure of taking 250IU injections 2 days prior to my test injections. I do my test injections on Monday so I do my HCG injections on Sat & Sun.

What I would like to know is once I am done with my 12 weeks of TRT when do I actually stop my HCG? Do I continue it? Would I follow Dr. Swale's TRT protocol and stop my HCG 1 week before the end of my TRT? If so, then would I take any Nolvadex or Clomid 2 weeks after my last injection?

If you are on trt you dont stop it and you dont do pct this is only for steroid cycles. You hcg taking is wrong also. Its halflife is 64 hrs and should be taken 2 days before injection and one day after both at 250iu.

 

[doublefister]

If you are on trt you dont stop it and you dont do pct this is only for steroid cycles. You hcg taking is wrong also. Its halflife is 64 hrs and should be taken 2 days before injection and one day after both at 250iu.

Can you show me the research on this procedure? From me following the HCG Update protocol on allthingsmale.com its recommended to do 2 days prior and the day before your test injections. Here is what it says:


In my previous report I recommended 250IU of HCG twice per week for all TRT patients, taken the day of, along with the day before, the weekly test cyp injection. After looking at countless lab printouts, listening to subjective reports from patients, and learning more about HCG, I am now shifting that regimen forward one day. In other words, my test cyp TRT patients now take their HCG at 250IU two days before, as well as the day immediately previous to, their IM shot. All administer their HCG subcutaneously, and dosage may be adjusted as necessary (I have yet to see more than 350IU per dose required).

I made this change after realizing that the previous HCG protocol was boosting serum testosterone levels too much, as the test cyp serum concentrations rise, approaching its peak at roughly the 72 hour mark. The original goal of supporting serum androgen levels with HCG had overshot its mark.

 

[Maxgain]

Can you show me the research on this procedure? From me following the HCG Update protocol on allthingsmale.com its recommended to do 2 days prior and the day before your test injections. Here is what it says:


In my previous report I recommended 250IU of HCG twice per week for all TRT patients, taken the day of, along with the day before, the weekly test cyp injection. After looking at countless lab printouts, listening to subjective reports from patients, and learning more about HCG, I am now shifting that regimen forward one day. In other words, my test cyp TRT patients now take their HCG at 250IU two days before, as well as the day immediately previous to, their IM shot. All administer their HCG subcutaneously, and dosage may be adjusted as necessary (I have yet to see more than 350IU per dose required).

I made this change after realizing that the previous HCG protocol was boosting serum testosterone levels too much, as the test cyp serum concentrations rise, approaching its peak at roughly the 72 hour mark. The original goal of supporting serum androgen levels with HCG had overshot its mark.

I was going by the kinetics of the product as Swale was doing originally obviously this does not seem to be working for his patients so I cant argue with it as i have only seen limited amounts of lab reults with the standard protocol and none on cypionate.