Do all pros use hgh and slin?

[galaxy]

Just wondering if it can be done with juice alone.

 

[The Ghost]

Although I don't have any proof, I would venture to say that nearly 100% of pro bodybuilders have used GH in their regime throughout their competitive years. It is very hard to attain a physique like a pro bodybuilder without using massive amounts of steroids and other compounds such as insulin and GH.

-TG

 

[pgerardone]

Not just all pros but all top amatures use gh and insulin. All of the top woman do also. It is pretty universal now. You can get better gains from gh, insulin and test then mixing a bunch of differebt steroids in one cycle. The gh is worth the money. Insulin isn't as dangerous as it is made out to be. I've used up to 10 iu's 2X a day and never had a problem. I have friends who use over 20iu's at a time.

 

[Weam]

Not just all pros but all top amatures use gh and insulin. All of the top woman do also. It is pretty universal now. You can get better gains from gh, insulin and test then mixing a bunch of differebt steroids in one cycle. The gh is worth the money. Insulin isn't as dangerous as it is made out to be. I've used up to 10 iu's 2X a day and never had a problem. I have friends who use over 20iu's at a time.

I agree 100% with ya
about Insulin, all professionals are professionals and they know exactly how to use Insulin while some newbies don't even know how calculate the doses, lol! therefor they should never use Insulin

 

[galaxy]

Shawn Ray doesn't have a growth gut and his weight hasn't changed much in years. At least he hasn't made any major changes in his physique. Is this because he doesn't do hgh and slin. I also realize one never knows what another does.

 

[pgerardone]

I'm sure shawn ray does what everyone else does. So I would venture to say he takes gh and insulin. You don't get a gh gut from using gh at a reasonable amount. Those with one are idiots who load themselves up on the stuff. The funniest thing I have ever seen was at a show a few years ago. There was a guy with this huge gh gut and no muscle anywhere else. It was really bad, if your going to have a gut at least be like palumbo and be huge.

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

Actually Ray is very outspoken against two substances used by today's bodybuilders: Synthol and Insulin. Maybe his passing up of the slin is what has kept his waist tight. I'm sure he uses GH though to get that ripped.
What is there besides slin that you could take with GH to counter the insulin insensitivity issue? Maybe Metformin or lots of ALA?

 

[scott825]

Yes they all use GH.It would be almost impossible to
stay that lean all the time without losing mass.

 

[pgerardone]

I'm sure what Shawn Ray does and what he says are two different things. I would bet he uses insulin. As for alternatives to insulin, I know a lot of bodybuilders were using rezulin a few years back but now that has been show to be more dangerous then insulin. There are a lot of oral diabetic drugs on the market now that may work but I really don't think anything could be as effective as real insulin. Insulin really is not that dangerous if you know what you are doing and you do not use rediculous amounts. Try 5 iu's in the morning with 50-70 grams of carbs and 5 after your workout with 50-70 carbs and you will be fine.