DNP and swollen lymph nodes??

[DMI]

I have been on DNP for 5 days now and have just noticed a swollen gland on my neck beneath my chin and jaw. Swollen lymph nodes are usually a response to infection. Do you think this is related to the DNP? Has anybody else experienced this? Could it be anything else other than a swollen gland?

Any help is appreciated!

 

[gregory]

The only help i can give you is to flush your DNP down the toilet. It's a complete waste of time, health and money. You can loose all the fat you want with some good old AAS, cardio and diet, you'll just have to be a little more patient.

 

[DMI]

Bump

 

[shortstack]

man, dnp is a really harsh subject on elite

 

[superchicken1]

The swollen glands could indeed be the DNP. I had the glands in my throat/back of mouth area so swollen the I woke up trying to swallow my uvula thinking it was post nasal drip... gross I know.

Another guy suggested it was the DNP (it happened for me on day six).

I had another guy say it always happened to him on DNP. So there is a bit of circumstantial evidence.

SuperChicken1

 

[LeeJunFan]

The only help i can give you is to flush your DNP down the toilet. It's a complete waste of time, health and money.

DNP is not a waste of time, it does EXACTLY what it says on the tin, fair enough, it is bad for you but suggesting something like AAS which is also bad for you is not good. As long as you are careful on DNP you will be ok. I'm guessing that Gregory, you have never tried DNP, that's the thing about DNP, you always get the death and scary stories from people who have never even been on it, If i were you DMI I would just listen to people who have tried it and know what they're talking about.

 

[dr0832]

I have been taking some guggul sterones and have felt this pain in the right side of my neck near the jaw. I funny thing is I only get it when taking the natural guggal. I don;t get the pain when taking the synthetic stuff inmuch higher dosages.

 

[shortstack]

DNP is not a waste of time, it does EXACTLY what it says on the tin, fair enough, it is bad for you but suggesting something like AAS which is also bad for you is not good. As long as you are careful on DNP you will be ok. I'm guessing that Gregory, you have never tried DNP, that's the thing about DNP, you always get the death and scary stories from people who have never even been on it, If i were you DMI I would just listen to people who have tried it and know what they're talking about.

or you could listen to the dead people who have tried it...... oh wait, you can't.

 

[DMI]

Greg and shortstack, I'm not trying to get into a debate about the dangers of DNP here, I am just looking for specific advice. leejunfan and superchicken1, thanks for your help.

Hoping to get more responses here.

 

[Dial_tone]

Something in my throat near my tonsils used to swell up on dnp. I thought something was stuck in there once and I tried to reach in and pull it out.

 

[hawaii50]

I also get swollen nodes when i'm on dnp. Too me it wasn't very serious, and there was no way i was stopping after 6 days of hell, just for a swollen throat. Just drink hot tea, and see if you can finish out the cycle.

Oh, btw. how many people have actually died from dnp? I'll bet a lot less than who've died from Aspirin OD. DNP is perfectly safe if you listen to your body, and follow directions.

hawaii

 

[DMI]

It is reassuring to hear others have experienced this. Thanks for the responses bros. I think it must be to do with the immune system's response to the DNP. If anyone has a detailed explanation of why it is caused I would like to hear from you!

 

[Gel2]

I think this is more widespread than just DNP.

British Dragon orals do this to me, not the first time I take them, but the second time.

Anavar 1st cycle ok
2nd cycle lymph gland popped up

Turanabol 1st cycle ok
2nd same lymph gland popped up

How wierd?

 

[DMI]

Hmmm, I am also into my 2nd week of British Dragon winstrol orals, lol! So I guess it could be from the DNP OR the British Dragon winny, OR both! How strange! Thanks for that gel2.

 

[LeeJunFan]

you must be on some mission to get ripped bro, I don't think I would do DNP and winny at the same time!

 

[DMI]

I'm only running a low dose of winny! Side effects are very minimal from the DNP so far on day 5 at 200mg ed (besides the god damn swollen gland, though maybe that's from the winny!) Also taking magnesium, calcium, zinc, r-ala, vitamin c, tyler's detoxication factors, vitamin e, v8 juice, etc etc.

 

[shortstack]

I also get swollen nodes when i'm on dnp. Too me it wasn't very serious, and there was no way i was stopping after 6 days of hell, just for a swollen throat. Just drink hot tea, and see if you can finish out the cycle.

Oh, btw. how many people have actually died from dnp? I'll bet a lot less than who've died from Aspirin OD. DNP is perfectly safe if you listen to your body, and follow directions.

hawaii

alot, i was just doing reaserch on it and you would be suprized. if fact even elite has had their problems from people dying on the boards from taking dnp. dont be so cock sure of yourself there buddy. cause something thats is used in dynomite may have some ramifications if used, you never now.

 

[Maetenloch]

<sigh>
Yes, yes DNP has been used as an explosive igniter and as an insect/rodent poison. However, consider this:

Several years ago before he had heart surgery, my father was prescribed nitroglycerin (an explosive!) for angina. He carried the tablets in a small metal canister so they wouldn't be in contact with his skin. Having worked on a blasting crew one summer during college, I can assure you that just getting a little dynamite paste on your hand is enough to give you a major headache from your blood vessels dilating. However for heart patients, this is a good thing.

A few years before that my sister was in the hospital and while she connected up to an IV, they administered Warfarin (a rat poison!) to prevent blood clotting. A rodenticide administered to a person by doctors in a hospital no less!

My point here is that chemicals can have many uses - the fact that something has one use does not prevent it from also having beneficial medical uses. The difference between a toxin and a medicine is often just a matter of dosage and context.

 

[gregory]

DNP is not a waste of time, it does EXACTLY what it says on the tin, fair enough, it is bad for you but suggesting something like AAS which is also bad for you is not good. As long as you are careful on DNP you will be ok. I'm guessing that Gregory, you have never tried DNP, that's the thing about DNP, you always get the death and scary stories from people who have never even been on it, If i were you DMI I would just listen to people who have tried it and know what they're talking about.

I have been around this game for about 8 years now. AAS are very safe and can be used to enhance your health. DNP can not. DNP has caused more deaths, brain damage (from overheating), organ staining, and visits to the ER then any AAS out there. DNP can work, that is the bottom line. But your effective dose and your overdose are very very close. So it's all too easy to slip up and screw yourself. No big margin of error. Just look at this thread, if you have it, throw it away. HIT cardio with clen and T3 will burn tons of fat on reduced calories and you'll be safe and build a work ethic, which is a must in this sport or any sport for that matter. I just want you guys to be safe with this shit, a six pack of abs is not worth this kind very real risk.

Peace.

 

[LeeJunFan]

I have been around this game for about 8 years now. AAS are very safe and can be used to enhance your health. DNP can not. DNP has caused more deaths, brain damage (from overheating), organ staining, and visits to the ER then any AAS out there. DNP can work, that is the bottom line. But your effective dose and your overdose are very very close. So it's all too easy to slip up and screw yourself. No big margin of error. Just look at this thread, if you have it, throw it away. HIT cardio with clen and T3 will burn tons of fat on reduced calories and you'll be safe and build a work ethic, which is a must in this sport or any sport for that matter. I just want you guys to be safe with this shit, a six pack of abs is not worth this kind very real risk.

Peace.

fair enough, you sound like you know about AAS, but you didn't answer my question about whether or not YOU have used DNP, i'm still guessing that you haven't, I don't know about AAS but I know that they are not safe and certainly not used to enhance your health, why are they illegal then?
It's when people who have never tried something that start saying things like the amount of times that substance has sent people to the ER that rumours start getting inaccurate.

 

[gregory]

fair enough, you sound like you know about AAS, but you didn't answer my question about whether or not YOU have used DNP, i'm still guessing that you haven't, I don't know about AAS but I know that they are not safe and certainly not used to enhance your health, why are they illegal then?
It's when people who have never tried something that start saying things like the amount of times that substance has sent people to the ER that rumours start getting inaccurate.

Bro steroids are used for life enhancement by millions of people this is a fact. Testosterone replacement is one of the big uses to enhance the health and quality of life in andropausal men. Deca (nondrolone) was developed for men who did not respond to test replacement all too well and needed something a little less androgenic. The list goes on and on. The reson althletes use AAS is for the Positive side effect of muslce, strenght and endurance building. The reason they're illegal is a huge quagmire of political hysteria and it's a more involved topic then we have time to discuss here.

As for the DNP, no i have not used it and for very good reason. This is the one compund i'll never try or have the need to try. I'm not being superior or anything, i struggle with fat loss as much as the next joe, but DNP is a dangerous substance. it's thermogenic properties are nothing to play around with. Just look at this thread, see all the sides? I have seen many peeps post so many negative comments about it, and so many end up in ER with ICE enemas to bring back their body temperatures down i decided to stay away. Bro, you're gonna abuse the hell out of your body for 10lbs of fat? Just run and eat less bro, stay away from DNP. You'll regret using it if you do, sure you may not die, but if you take an honest look at yourself in the mirror you'll have to admit it was a waste of time and health.

There's no quick fix when it comes to fat loss. A BodyBuilding pro takes 12-16 weeks to diet down for a contest, and they have low BF to begin. The average joe just does not comprehend that he will also have to plan for 4-6 month cutter to get really lean, after all if you can build 20lbs of beef in 6-8 weeks you'll naturally expect to cut just as quick. But cutting is an art form practiced by many and mastered by few, it's key ingredient is mental fortitude and patience. Those are the lessons i learned in my 13 years of training and 8 years of experince with AAS.

 

[LeeJunFan]

to be honest, I have heard a lot worse side effects from AAs than I have on DNP, the only side I get is warmth which isn't relly a bad side in the winter, I'd much rather suffer from heat than gyno or deca dick.

 

[gregory]

Hmm yes but if you research how the warmth is generated and why, you might think twice. This is not CNS stimulation that give you the warmth like effedrine or clen does.

Bad sides from AAS are preventable and some substances just should not be used by rookies. The good thing about AAS is you can't relistically overdose on them.

 

[LeeJunFan]

fair point and I agree that some substances should not be used by rookies, I read everything about DNP for a good 3 months before I even considered taking it and even then every time I get a new batch I have to start off very slowly and see how my body responds to it.

 

[shortstack]

<sigh>
Yes, yes DNP has been used as an explosive igniter and as an insect/rodent poison. However, consider this:

Several years ago before he had heart surgery, my father was prescribed nitroglycerin (an explosive!) for angina. He carried the tablets in a small metal canister so they wouldn't be in contact with his skin. Having worked on a blasting crew one summer during college, I can assure you that just getting a little dynamite paste on your hand is enough to give you a major headache from your blood vessels dilating. However for heart patients, this is a good thing.

A few years before that my sister was in the hospital and while she connected up to an IV, they administered Warfarin (a rat poison!) to prevent blood clotting. A rodenticide administered to a person by doctors in a hospital no less!

My point here is that chemicals can have many uses - the fact that something has one use does not prevent it from also having beneficial medical uses. The difference between a toxin and a medicine is often just a matter of dosage and context.

ok so all that stuff has medical perpises right.....
can you tell me what the medical perpise of DNP is?
I mean, it's got to have a medical perpise, its used for both dynomite and poison right?

 

[shortstack]

Hmm yes but if you research how the warmth is generated and why, you might think twice. This is not CNS stimulation that give you the warmth like effedrine or clen does.

Bad sides from AAS are preventable and some substances just should not be used by rookies. The good thing about AAS is you can't relistically overdose on them.

greg, smart people learn from others mistakes, idiots learn from their own. let him be.

 

[Maetenloch]

ok so all that stuff has medical perpises right.....
can you tell me what the medical perpise of DNP is?
I mean, it's got to have a medical perpise, its used for both dynomite and poison right?

I make no claim that DNP has useful medical properties - just that its use in explosives and as an insecticide does not inherently make it unsafe at all dosages.

In fact after a quick search, it may may in fact be useful as an anti-cancer treatment - by raising the metabolism of all cells (including tumor cells), it also makes them more succeptible to other cancer treatments. See this thread (especially the post by Wrongun).

 

[DMI]

DNp has been used medically to treat extreme cases of obesity.

 

[gregory]

DNp has been used medically to treat extreme cases of obesity.

Yeah, for a brief time in the 1920's or so.

 

[DMI]

Indeed, cataracts and death were the problem! (In high doses.) 85 years ago people didn't know enough about it.

 

[shortstack]

Yeah, for a brief time in the 1920's or so.

just about to say that, lol..


oh and they never knew enough about it then, and i guess now they do, and thats why their staying the fizzark away from it.