Divorce Statistics

[biteme]

I was wondering about this today. I am betting that a higher percentage of marriages with children end in divorce compared to marriages without children. Unfortunately, having children puts a lot of stress on marriages when both partners work outside of the home. Since 80% of divorces are instigated by women, it is usually the women that can't handle the stress. Sure, sometimes the man doesn't carry his weight, but in a lot of cases, I think the woman doesn't like coming second to the children, women are delicate little creatures that need attention around the clock and they want you to worship the ground that that walk on. Generally speaking of course.

 

[VooDoo Lady]

Since 80% of divorces are instigated by women, it is usually the women that can't handle the stress.

You need to show me where you found this statistic.

 

[VooDoo Lady]

Sure, sometimes the man doesn't carry his weight, but in a lot of cases, I think the woman doesn't like coming second to the children, women are delicate little creatures that need attention around the clock and they want you to worship the ground that that walk on. Generally speaking of course.

I'm not a delicate little creature in need of anything. I wouldn't respect my husband if he walked around worshipping the ground I walk on. What's your issue here? Does your wife act this way?

 

[Puddles]

Biteme, you're not really serious here, are you?

 

[biteme]

Biteme, you're not really serious here, are you?

I'm dead serious. When I say the majority, please do not assume that I'm talking about you. The majority of women IMO are headcases.

 

[VooDoo Lady]

I'm dead serious. When I say the majority, please do not assume that I'm talking about you. The majority of women IMO are headcases.

Answer my Q's bitme....

 

[biteme]

Answer my Q's bitme....

I found that statistic when I was going through a divorce. Read it on the internet or in a pamphlet for Father's Rights. As far as was my wife like that? Apparently more so than I thought. She told me that if I didn't sign the papers to buy her a Corvette that she was going to make me pay. She also became very jealous of my attachment to our daughter. I know it whether she will admit it or not. When it was just the 2 of us, I gave her all the attention in the world because I loved her, but when that little one came along, she had to take a backseat and I don't think she could handle it.

 

[biteme]

A dr. friend of mine said the other day that he would never remarry because American women want to be treated like a princess and he's not interested in treating anyone like a princess.

 

[Puddles]

I'm dead serious. When I say the majority, please do not assume that I'm talking about you. The majority of women IMO are headcases.

LOL IMO, the majority of people in general are headcases! Myself included!



One of my favorite songs:

Barenaked Ladies - Crazy

I climb the walls of my mind just like I'm climbing on a jungle gym
I am more than content with the
state of mind I am in
'cause I am crazy just like you
I am crazy just like you.

I don't think I need a rubber room,
but hey, that might be nice
I'm not a manic depressive paranoid or schizophrenic
so I don't need your advice.
I am crazy just like you
I am crazy just like you.

The lights are on but nobody's home
my elevator doesn't go to the top
I'm not playing with a full deck
I've lost my marbles
The lights are on but nobody's home
my elevator doesn't go to the top
I'm not playing with a full deck
I've lost my marbles.

I'm a few bricks short of a load,
but a full load always hurt my back.
I flew over the cuckoo's nest and
I'm never ever coming back because
I am crazy just like you
I am crazy just like you.
I am crazy.

 

[Testosterone boy]

All of the figures I have read are between 70% to 80% for the woman saying she is unhappy and wants out.

 

[biteme]

I'd like to see statistics on how many divorces are instigated by women vs by men. I bet the majority occur when the wife calls for the divorce.

Meaning men are the real ones these days that keep their end of the marriage oath - til death do you apart.

-= nav =-

80% Nav. Unless that statistic was incorrect that is what was exactly quoted.

 

[KAYNE]

I DONT KNOW HOW MANY ARE WITH CHILDREN OR WITHOUT CHILDREN. I DONT EVEN KNOW HOW MANY ARE INITIATED BY WOMEN (I'LL BET MOST OF THEM ARE THOUGH). BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT OVER 50% OF MARRIAGES END IN DIVORCE THESE DAYS. THATS SAD.




KAYNE

 

[biteme]

I DONT KNOW HOW MANY ARE WITH CHILDREN OR WITHOUT CHILDREN. I DONT EVEN KNOW HOW MANY ARE INITIATED BY WOMEN (I'LL BET MOST OF THEM ARE THOUGH). BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT OVER 50% OF MARRIAGES END IN DIVORCE THESE DAYS. THATS SAD.




KAYNE

I'm fairly certain that first marriages end in divorce 60% of the time. How they come up with these statistics, I don't know. I recently read this in a psych. book. That is F...ing appalling.

 

[PHATchik]

Well, now we have surpassed simple female bashing threads. We have now gone one step further and said that women are the leading instigators of divorce. We have now gone so far to say that women are delicate little creatures? WTF? This thread really has to be a joke?

 

[atlantabiolab]

A dr. friend of mine said the other day that he would never remarry because American women want to be treated like a princess and he's not interested in treating anyone like a princess.

Then he definately should not get remarried, but then he should never have been married to begin with.

It is obvious that your friend, and most in this country, do not understand the concept of value, that to value something you must do things to ensure it is not lost, that it is cared for, since value denotes scarcity. Do you leave a brand new car with the keys in the ignition? Do you not care where you place fine jewelry? Then why is it that people do not value that which we derive such lasting pleasure from: family, marriage, spouse? We DO things to care for and protect the first items, yet we often times do nothing for the latter.

We have turned marriage into a "lease" concept, where we lease the company of another, until we find one that we like better. Generally, not because there was anything wrong with the first, but simply because, the label of marriage was not giving us any pleasure. A new person requires action and challenge to warrant our attention and this act is "fun", while we already have our present spouse, and they just aren't doing it for us. Somehow we believe that the energy that we put into chasing a new relationship would not be better spent directed towards the one we claimed we "loved". But we cannot love one that we do not value, one that we believe is disposable and replaceable.

We would rather treat a woman like a "princess" only up until that time that we have them securely, and then discard the illusion and show them the real person, the one who does not value them, the one who does not value himself.

 

[MFMan]

This is complete and total b.s. women are not responsible for everything. Just 90% of things. I read this off the internet.

 

[Austrian]

American women want to be treated like a princess and he's not interested in treating anyone like a princess.

what does he mean by that? if its spending all his income for buying her gifts then i would also show her the door but if its just that she expects that he shows that he loves her, admires her, cares about her, listens to her, makes her feel special, than he is really not ready for marriage.
The numbers seem to be correct, in Western Europe, ~75% of divorces are filed by women and since the employment rate for US women is higher than in continental Europe, 80% could well be true. In past times, women were trapped in bad marriages but today they can support themselves and hence they have a way out.

 

[Bikini Mod]

...We would rather treat a woman like a "princess" only up until that time that we have them securely, and then discard the illusion and show them the real person, the one who does not value them, the one who does not value himself.

Kind of ironic how this works both ways yet few MEN ever "get it". (PS - I never ever asked to be treated like a princess. The only thing that I ever asked for is trust and respect.... NEVER GOT IT. This was ALL MY BAD.

If I will ever take the plunge again which will not be for A LONG time if EVER, I don't even care if he loves me... but only that he is kind to me.

what does he mean by that? if its spending all his income for buying her gifts then i would also show her the door but if its just that she expects that he shows that he loves her, admires her, cares about her, listens to her, makes her feel special, than he is really not ready for marriage.
The numbers seem to be correct, in Western Europe, ~75% of divorces are filed by women and since the employment rate for US women is higher than in continental Europe, 80% could well be true. In past times, women were trapped in bad marriages but today they can support themselves and hence they have a way out.

Yea, there is a big shock those DAMN BITCHES are no longer FORCED BECAUSE OF ECONOMICS to stay in a bad marriage. They can and DO ACTUALLY LEAVE AND MAKE IT ON THEIR OWN.

Seems to me that this is more a "man" issue than a "woman" issue. In the past a man could pretty much treat his wife any way that he liked once they were married because HE KNEW she had no place else to go. If she "got lucky" and married a man who continued to behave AFTER he got her the way that he did TO GET HER then it was a happy marriage for both. BUT, if he stopped giving a shit because she was now HIS CHATTLE - well there was a lifetime a misery FOR THE WOMAN because he had all the economic and societal control. Birth control and education and work upportunities CHANGED THAT.

So what is the problem then? The MEN have not caught on to this idea yet. (Well, not ALL, just the majority as the statistics quoted before me show.)

There are countries like Japan where the birthrate has declined by an alarming rate because with the event of advances for women they simply do not WANT to live the short end of the stick that would be the traditional role of wife and mother. They want to enjoy their live's achievements. They have made advances as women. Unfortunately MEN HAVE NOT so they forgo motherhood and marriage because OF MEN....

 

[-SD-]

There are countries like Japan where the birthrate has declined by an alarming rate because with the event of advances for women they simply do not WANT to live the short end of the stick that would be the traditional role of wife and mother. They want to enjoy their live's achievements. They have made advances as women. Unfortunately MEN HAVE NOT so they forgo motherhood and marriage because OF MEN....

You need to make up your mind whether you think the proper raising of your children is more important than a career. If you think that being a wife and mother is getting the short end of the stick than your children are in trouble. I realize your views stem from your failed marriage but try to be realistic with respect to the rest of society.
By the way, men have made advances, they are called prenuptial agreements.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

People come into marriage with a lot of different expectations.

rarely are they all met.

Every married friend I have, says that it is a game of compromise, particualry in the aera of time.

if money is tight then I can totally see why the frustration grows. Additionally, most people aereunwilling or unable to look internally and really attribute blameto themselves, sotheir spouse is a logical (given this thought process) target.

Thus:

1. A big-ass prenup

2. Desire to be a mother to a lot of my children


Are exactly my expectations for my future wife. And if Britney can't handle that, well, too fucking bad. Actually I'd never mary Louisiana trash. Almost did once. But I am serious about the rest of it.

 

[-SD-]

People come into marriage with a lot of different expectations.

rarely are they all met.

Every married friend I have, says that it is a game of compromise, particualry in the aera of time.

if money is tight then I can totally see why the frustration grows. Additionally, most people aereunwilling or unable to look internally and really attribute blameto themselves, sotheir spouse is a logical (given this thought process) target.

Thus:

1. A big-ass prenup

2. Desire to be a mother to a lot of my children


Are exactly my expectations for my future wife. And if Britney can't handle that, well, too fucking bad. Actually I'd never mary Louisiana trash. Almost did once. But I am serious about the rest of it.

People are very reluctant to assign any blame to themselves for the reason that it is easier to just ahte the one you are closest to, kind of like when siblings had mood swings of hate to one another.