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Digging Up The Trenches

javaguru

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I'm watching it on the Military Channel, 2006 documentary about archaeologists digging up WWI trenches at Ypres. I've recently become more interested in WWI.
 
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A Cheshire Regiment sentry in a trench near La Boisselle during the Battle of the Somme, July 1916
 
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Germans in their well protected trenches on the Belgian frontier showing the men in the act of aiming at their enemy. Underwood and Underwood. (1917 - 1919)
 
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The cry goes out signaling the attack. Here Canadian soldiers attack at Vimy Ridge - the battle that truly made Canada a nation. Allied losses at Vimy prior to Canada's victory were estimated to be over 150,000.
 
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French fort at Verdun before the battle...

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After German bombardment...The battle for Verdun resulted in over a million casualties, including some estimates of 50,000 the first day.
 
bro nothing tickles my history bone like ww1
i would rather have fought in any major conflict in the last 200 yrs
their was no 1 yr tour, you fought untill death or invalidation
5 yr war odds wern't good on your survival.
i got lotsa book suggestions if you are interested
 
Gambino said:
bro nothing tickles my history bone like ww1
i would rather have fought in any major conflict in the last 200 yrs
their was no 1 yr tour, you fought untill death or invalidation
5 yr war odds wern't good on your survival.
i got lotsa book suggestions if you are interested
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I had taken at least three classes that covered WWI but they didn't cover it to a great extent when compared to WWII. What I found fascinating is how quickly tactics evolved. In 1914 the armies went to war much like a Napoleonic army and by 1917 the foundations of maneuver warfare had been developed.

Even the uniforms resembled Napoleonic era uniforms.
French Infantryman 1914..not even a helmet.
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javaguru said:
I had taken at least three classes that covered WWI but they didn't cover it to a great extent when compared to WWII. What I found fascinating is how quickly tactics evolved. In 1914 the armies went to war much like a Napoleonic army and by 1917 the foundations of maneuver warfare had been developed.

Even the uniforms resembled Napoleonic era uniforms.
French Infantryman 1914..not even a helmet.
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yeah and those poor armies that marched column style w/horses got mowed down by machine guns and heavy artillery time and time again.
it took the generals a while to figure that one out
even at the somme column style tactics were tried by the brits...only to have their armies oblieterated by german maxim guns
the french/brit generals were deathly inept
 
Gambino said:
yeah and those poor armies that marched column style w/horses got mowed down by machine guns and heavy artillery time and time again.
it took the generals a while to figure that one out
even at the somme column style tactics were tried by the brits...only to have their armies oblieterated by german maxim guns
the french/brit generals were deathly inept
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I saw a re-enactment using British military cadets using MILES gear using line abreast tactics against a maxim machine gun, they suffered about 80% casualties by the time they neared the enemy trench line. Using the more evolved bounding advance they suffered 1/3 casualties by the time they reached the other side.

By 1917 the Germans had developed the basics of blitzkrieg by utilizing stormtroopers that would bypass strong points and penetrate as deeply as possible targeting command and control while the "regular infantry" mopped up the strong points.
 
javaguru said:
I saw a re-enactment using British military cadets using MILES gear using line abreast tactics against a maxim machine gun, they suffered about 80% casualties by the time they neared the enemy trench line. Using the more evolved bounding advance they suffered 1/3 casualties by the time they reached the other side.

By 1917 the Germans had developed the basics of blitzkrieg by utilizing stormtroopers that would bypass strong points and penetrate as deeply as possible targeting command and control while the "regular infantry" mopped up the strong points.
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yeah i've seen that before
good info
for some reason the passchendale battle is paritcularly interesting to me
 
javaguru said:
Talk about some mud...not so good for primitive tanks....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnKZTDQml_g
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fuck that bro
i would've i would have given myself a blighty
cut my achilles or shot a few toes off
anything to get outta the swamps of flanders fuck that
an interesting figure is Petain
the hero of verdun in ww1
and the villian of the Vichy in ww2
strange to go from such extremes
 
Gambino said:
fuck that bro
i would've i would have given myself a blighty
cut my achilles or shot a few toes off
anything to get outta the swamps of flanders fuck that
an interesting figure is Petain
the hero of verdun in ww1
and the villian of the Vichy in ww2
strange to go from such extremes
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Some say the things Petain experienced in WWI influenced him to "collaborate" with the Nazi's to save French lives.
 
javaguru said:
Some say the things Petain experienced in WWI influenced him to "collaborate" with the Nazi's to save French lives.
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either way he was treated like a bendict arnold
hard to justify collaborating with peeps who have slaughtered millions of your own kind
def be a good bio to read
 
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