Deca with Dianobol?

[Stanger]

I am about to start 300-400 mg/wk doses of deca. I hear that deca is good to stack with dianobol or testaviron depot or something. Those are really expensive though. Will I still get good results with only the deca followed by HCG?

 

[Realgains]

Deca plus d-bol is a classic for mass gains....many many pro's did these roids together in the past and got plenty big. This was a favorite of Mike Mentzer.

It has had a falling out in the last ten years but it still is one of the best mass combos you can do.

Deca works better than test at the AR receptor sites and d-bol covers the non AR mediated zone.

One thing ....don't stay on d-bol for more than six weeks and four is better because it is Liver toxic, like all the other orals except primo and perhaps anavar. Have an extrogen blocker available in case d-bol starts to bother the tits......deca can give you progesterone gyno but it is uncommon at doses of 400 or less. Do Deca at 400 per week if you are more than 175lbs and do d-bol at 25 to 50 for four weeks in five divided doses throughout the day. HGood luck and keep us posted.

 

[genarr3]

Deca and dBol are like peanut butter and jelly.

 

[Realgains]

Oh....ya, you will get much better results if you use the d-bol but deca only works well too and is a very safe roid.

You can get a Ttokkyo Nadralona 300, 10 cc for 90 bucks and that is not exspensive bro. That is 3000mg of Deca! Ttokkyo is good stuff.

 

[Stanger]

The only place I can find to buy the deca is $17 a vial and d-bol is over $500 for the full use of it.

 

[genarr3]

That is expensive. How many dBols are you getting for $500?

 

[Stanger]

5 mg tabs containing 100 tabs for $65

 

[g-dogg]

What do you meen d-bol is 500 for a FULL dose, it shouldn't be more than $75 per hundred-what is a FULL dose-don't believe everything you hear.

 

[genarr3]

5 mg tabs containing 100 tabs for $65

That's not bad. You were'nt going to run the dBol for more than 4 weeks, right?

 

[Stanger]

About the d-bol. I'll go through a hell of a lot of tabs though wont I? It's going to add up.

 

[Realgains]

How many cc's are in that vail for $17 bro? Do you mean one amp for $17...if so then it's probably deca from organon and thats the best you can get....BUT if you are getting 10cc vails for $17 then it is crap or someone is scamming you. TTokkyo 300 is the best for the money bro.

 

[genarr3]

I would guess they are organon 2ml/100mg = 200mg.
Unless you were planning on running the dBol a real long time you won't need more than 200 at 25ED.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

Oh....ya, you will get much better results if you use the d-bol but deca only works well too and is a very safe roid.

You can get a Ttokkyo Nadralona 300, 10 cc for 90 bucks and that is not exspensive bro. That is 3000mg of Deca! Ttokkyo is good stuff.

It would be nice if the label really had what it said. I still believe that Organon at 200/cc is much stronger than Ttokkyo's supposed 300/cc.

 

[38zpop]

Wasn't Dan Dduchaine a big fan of deca and dbol? Go for the tri-fector and throw in some test!

 

[Stanger]

It is organon 2cc 200 mg/L vials for $17. And about the Ttokkyo, how much is equivalent to 200 mg/L of deca? At there main site they only talk about the dogs they use this stuff on. There are no prices or anything. Do I need to use the d-bol along with this?

 

[genarr3]

The tt deca is 300mg * 10. You won't be able to buy anything from their website. It's a Vet pharm lab, that's why they talk about dogs.

 

[Stanger]

I guess I better search the market.

 

[Realgains]

Dude nadralone is nadralone .....although Organon is the best TTokkyo is still great stuff and you get 10cc's of 300mg per cc deca!! It is a way better deal bro. How far from the border are you dude...I know Texas is a very big state. If you can get to Mexico you could buy a bottle or two from a vet for less than $60!!

 

[Stanger]

Sounds like I'll go with the nadralone. I guess I still take the same amount of that as I would with the deca, right? And about the d-bol, I have read that for optimum results, it is necessary to take 15-30 mg/day for a period of 8-10 weeks. Why do y'all say 4 weeks.

 

[Realgains]

Dude, Deca is just the trade name Organon gave to its Nandralone years ago, so the name stuck. Deca is Nadralone.

 

[genarr3]

No way do you do dBol for 10 weeks. It's a 17aa drug and liver toxic. Where did you read 10 weeks?

 

[Realgains]

I for one would never take d-bol for 8-10 weeks bro...way too liver toxic. Doing Roids is a bit of a crap shoot at the best of time. You got to use your head when playing the game. Side effects cannot always be seen with the eye dude.

25-50 mg in five divided doses per day for the first four weeks dude....six weeks tops!

 

[Realgains]

Fuck it ...stay with the first four weeks dude and not even six weeks... and save your liver. It is a good thing you posted dude!

 

[Stanger]

If I e-mail Ttokkyo and ask to buy the nadralone, will they send me it being in the U.S.

 

[Realgains]

Dude the only orals that you could perhaps safely take for 8-10 weeks would be oral primo or Anavar(expensive) Even with these I would hesitate.

If you want to stack something with Deca then do another injectible. Winny is probably the best for a couple of reasons....one it works via non AR mediated mechanisms and Deca is weak here BUT king at the AR receptor(even better than Test) and it also is claimed to block the progesterone effect of Deca that can cause Deca dick and progesterone gyno (both pretty rare at doses of 400 or under)

You could also use Test or Primo with good results.

 

[genarr3]

If I e-mail Ttokkyo and ask to buy the nadralone, will they send me it being in the U.S.

no

 

[Realgains]

Dude, Ttokkyo is sure the F... not going to send you their Nadralona 300. You got to go to a vet in Mexico that is a distibutor of Ttokkyo. You can get it from other sources for around $90 for the 10cc vail though. Check out the sticky of "International Sources" at www.triedia.com