Deca/Winny Newbie

[buck23]

I would appreciate any help and advice onthis that can be offered. First of all this will be my 1st cycle and thought it might be best to start small. Been lifting for about 7 years 6'2'' 225lbs. I obtained 100 of the 10 mg Ttokkyo winny and one bottle (10ml?) of the Brovel Deca 200. Id there a way I can make this work if it's just for a first time? Somebody said to jsut take them together for as long as I have. I just feel there has to be a better method. Appreciate the help in advance...

Thanks

 

[buck23]

Sorry about the spelling just typed to fast. Still looking for a response because I don't want to F this thing up.

 

[genarr3]

You could do 200mgs/week of Deca
Winstrol at 50mgs/everyday 8 - 10

 

[buck23]

Thanks for the reply I just have one question...Like I said this is my first cycle and I've been working out for a while and have most of the muscle I want. In that regards I'm only looking to add a little and harden up some. With the amount of stuff I have will I even notice a differance with it? Is it even worth it? I can't see how I wouldn't notice some differance I just might not blow up. Let me know if it's worth the trouble.

Thanks

 

[Evik]

I think that you will get good results, if this is your first cycle. The dosages genarr posted seem fine, but personally I would want a small amount of Test in the mix to keep the sex drive up. (200mgs/wk should do the trick) just my opinions...

 

[MadCow1]

Basically same as above-

You might be able to run the winstrol at 30 or 40mg ED to make it last longer but definitely run it for a few weeks beyond the deca. Run the deca 8 weeks - take your 2 extra cc's and run the first 2 weeks at 400mg.

That should work. Without any idea how you might respond it's tough to say. A lot of guys can gain well on that. Some can't. You will surely see some effects and with modest goals I doubt you will be dissappointed and have the potential to be amazed.

(oh yeah - clomid? you got some right?)

Good luck.

 

[Evik]

(oh yeah - clomid? you got some right?)

This would be a good idea.

 

[buck23]

Thanks for the advice. Like I said this is the first time, I'm 30 yrs old though. This next question might seem retarded but what would happen if I did not use the Clomid? I know it's something I should get based upon all the searching I've done on this board but bottom line the worst case senario for me. Once again thanks...

 

[genarr3]

Worst case would be to loose all your gains made during the cycle, and prolong the after cycle crash.

I highly suggest you use it, but back in the old days it wasn't used all that often and people got big then too.

 

[littleswoll]

Bro to be honest you really have enough of either to see a big difference, I recently was trying to rush into a cycle myself. Its always best to wait until you have everything you need. Don't do it unless you going to do it right. Just my opinion but its up to you. Good Luck bro.

 

[littleswoll]

By the way, what are your goals for your first cycle?

 

[MadCow1]

Worst case would be to loose all your gains made during the cycle, and prolong the after cycle crash.

I highly suggest you use it, but back in the old days it wasn't used all that often and people got big then too.

This was a long time ago, but I've done deca/winny without clomid. It was fairly easy to retain the gains (way easier than fina or test) but it took a while for natural test production to get back again. Didn't feel 100% for quite some time.

Nandrolone tends to be pretty suppressive so it's a better idea to get clomid and run it with arimidex if possible post cycle. These 2 in conjuction will be better at restoring HPTA properly.

 

[kiwibrian]

ive just done a cycle for 8 weeks 6 weeks ago sust 250 1 ml per week gains were great as well as sex drive . 6 weeks later i am still getting stronger bodyweight has dropped 2kg sex drive as gone bar weekends so yes my next cycle i will be using
clomid for sure i trained for 12 years and cycled without clomid so the days have changed and the bodys are getting better

good luck kiwibrian