Deca/Winny Blast

[Power36]

Hi Guys,
Simple question I asked last year and we threaded about it a little, but just looking for feedback again. I posted in the main forum with no responses probably because its such a basic and repeated question. But I am asking in terms of an HRT blast so Ill post here.

Ive been cruising on HRT and its been probably 6 months since I did a blast. Since I have a job I cannot blow up too much, and folks already think I look big, I was thinking of just adding in some deca at 100mg to my 200mg TRT dose....or possibly bumping it up to 300-400mg test e for 10 weeks with 10 weeks of deca at 100mg to help with Joint pain and such. Then add in 50mg daily winny tabs for 6 weeks as well to see what that does, Ive never run it. Will do low carb diet, lots of protein, 3 heavy full body lifts a week, and 2-3 interval sessions a week of med balls, sledge hammer, sled drags, versa climber, sprints, ropes, KB circuits etc....

Id so love dearly to hit primo for 12 oe 14 weeks, but its just so damn expensive......primo and var would be my choice to run and stay lean and maybe put on a little size, but primo and var are not in my budget...deca is cheap, winny is cheap....and I have a boatload of extra Test just from my TRT prescriptions (Ive done times where I tried to get off or lowered dose drastically to see how Id feel, but kept up with the scripts so stockpiled plenty)....

I already have probably guessing 6 weeks worth of 100mg Deca I can use from I think two years ago (its not bad to use a vial from 2 years ago is it?). I only used half of it just for joints, its a 10cc bottle of 300mg/ML deca from HRT clinic. Since Deca is fairly cheap I was just going to buy 6 more 100mg amps to make sure I had enough for 10 weeks or so, and I have about 40 (50mg) Winny tabs too. So I could buy some more of them to bump up dose to 75mg or 100mg if needed or extend out the 50mg for a longer period of time. Or I could just go nuts with Test blasts as I have tons of that haha...I have both Cyp and E...I wanted to do a blast now on the lighter side of things, then in the summer see if I can save enough for a Primo blast or Masteron+Var and extra test...

So just for a 10 or 12 week blast to low carb and hit lots of intervals, how does this sound:
200-400mg Test weekly
100mg deca weekly (or is 100mg not enough to help with joints, do I need more?)
50mg winny for 4-6 weeks (or if my Liver values are good could I stretch it out to 7 or 8 weeks?)

Then for summer if Im in better financial position, try to do some UG primo, Mast, and var...

Thanks!

 

[XMAN.]

post ur previous blast and stats b4 and after.
just to see what kind of gains u had on what amount of roids.

 

[Power36]

Ill have to dig up my exact stats after and what I did..if I remember correctly I did an 8 week blast of:

Masteron E 400mg week
Var 50mg daily for 45 days
Test 200mg weekly (my normal dose or possibly I did 400mg but I think I got scared of size so stuck at regular dose and just added Mast and Var)

Last spring I was about 235lbs at 7.5% BF from dunk tank, I know that I saw the papers the other day. That was on 150mg T a week HRT plan. I went from 200, to 150, down to 100 trying to see how low I could go and stay the same. I could still hang in gym same but the biggest different at 150mg and 100mg was mental, I wasnt depressed but I just didnt feel right or as happy and chipper...and my doc gave me a cool long lesson (which I forgot the details) about how important T is for brain chemicals balance and dopamine maybe and other stuff etc etc I forget...so he said it seemed totally normal to him Id stay same in gym but feel mental effects dropping dose before I got weaker physically...so I went back to 200mg....screw it...guess for a while I was hoping to taper off, and try a restart on my own..but with work and life right now I cant afford a hormonal crash, so if I try to taper off T someday and attempt a restart it will have to be at a time I can afford to risk it...otherwise maybe Ill just be pinning for life which I kinda assume now....

So yea I blasted 8 weeks with 400mg Mast, 50mg Var, and at most 400mg Test.....I do not have stats measured but from what I remember I just looked a heck of a lot harder and felt super duper good, great recovery, popping woodies like a 16 year old all the time randomly, and just a good mental feeling....I didnt blow up which I didnt want to do anyways, which is always my "fear" of using too much Test, even though I have the motherload of extra Test Cyp and Enan I could use for blasts....but again my goals would always be to either stay the same size range and drop BF% or go up or down 10 pounds and just be leaner and harder....no need at 5'10 to be anymore than 230-240 which was my natural size from 16 years old to my 30s...I dont know if its HRT or just my metabolism and other health issues, but these days if Im not careful Ill hover more close to 250 or high 240s if I let myself eat too many damn carbs or Im not training enough....so I try to be careful about stuffing my face hah...

I want to hit a blast and be low carb and jamming on the protein shakes, and handfuls of BCAAs and EFAs every time I step in the kitchen and between meals!

So yea Im currently in low 230s, and would never want to be north of 250.

So yea my wet dream blasts would be Primo and Var, but they are so pricey....I have about 10cc of Deca so figured Id use it in winter to get rid of it and see if it helped joints...and bump up Test...and I have some Winny orals as well as tbol orals I could use too...then save up and see if in summer I can financially try a Primo blast or Masteron E again (I liked it but my source for Mast E is gone, and although it was UG I trusted it, and thats the only time Ive ever shot non HG gear...I prefer to stay HG with injectables)....

 

[XMAN.]

i think last time u went for the 400mg for test i just remembered i was the one encouraging u to bump ur test dose by then, so as i remember u did 400mg test and 400mg mast plus var 50mg/ed, well u can do the same for deca do it at 400mg and test for another 400mg and the last 4 or 6 weeks winny at 50mg/ed. use an AI and dostinex (caber) with that cycle and u'll dry out even more than a mast or primo cycle cuz deca is more anabolic then both, plus the addition of winny which is more powerfull than var in cutting and with a low carb diet and with 500 cal deficit at least u don't have to worry about increasing too much in size, or u can increase cal intake the first half of the cycle to gain a little muscles at the beginning and decrease it later in the second half of it to dry out.

 

[XMAN.]

and btw i also dropped my hrt dose from 250mg to 150mg and letro 1.5mg x2/w stopped deca too for a while at least. as i grow older i'm less and less in high dosing and heavy cycling or blasting i think this is no more for me i'm only in peps business lately and for anti-aging issues , the minimum i.e

 

[Power36]

thanks for the reply brother! Yea you did help me set up my last blast!

I gotta see if I can source the stuff...my usual source has gone...my doc is considering the Deca aspect....I have about 9x100mg worth of Deca, and about 45 Winny 50mg tabs....and tons and tons of Test enough to do anything i want....so I gotta see about sourcing more Deca....if not I also have about 5 weeks worth of 50mg tbol daily....so worst case I will hit the Deca 100mg week plus 400mg week Test and either use the Winny or Tbol tabs until I can find a legit and affordable source for a summer blast....

And yea, I try to drop doses, and will blast this time and drop down below 200mg eventually again see how I tolerate it, and save up for summer blast of Primo/Var or Mast/Var......my doc is amazing, but is not familiar with restarts...and I cant afford some of the big name docs who are good at restarts or I would....Id love to not be on HRT, and just do 2 very conservative and modest cycles a year...that would be fun to not have to be pinning and pill popping and getting labs done all the time....BUT its a better alternative to feeling like shit like I was before HRT with low labs in everything from Test, to thyroid, to cortisol, IGF, etc...I was rock bottom.....now Im feeling nad looking great...the blasts honestly are just for fun and the hell of it because I was clean my entire life and never juiced, but admit was always curious and tempted!

 

[XMAN.]

in case u didn't get extra deca then keep it ur way at 100mg as joint support and do the tbol for 4 weeks then winny the next 4 on top of ur 400mg test, of course increase ur AI dose a bit but do it starting the 3rd week, in all cycle it's beneficial to increase estrogens in the first couple of weeks, it resensitize the androgen receptors and promote GH secretion retain water in muscles so it's crucial for anabolism, then later when it builds up decrease it by increasing ur AI dose.

 

[Power36]

thanks bro thats solid solid advice...I normally increase AI dose at same time, didnt know to kinda let it slide a few weeks before bumping it up!

 

[XMAN.]

ur welcome bro anytime

 

[Power36]

Ive read gear doesnt go "bad' but might lose some potency...I have some Test Enanthate 300mg/mL from my first HRT doc that I never used....its two years old....whats your opinion maybe on doing 600mg Test Enanthate week divided into two shots, plus 100mg Deca for joint (so I dont have to buy anything else and save cash for later or "real world" bills), and then 50mg Tbol to start for first 4 weeks, take 2-3 weeks off orals, then finish up with 4 weeks Winny 50mg daily....so maybe a 12-14 week blast of basically 600mg Test Enan + 9 weeks of Deca at 100mg, and Tbol to kickstart it oral and Winny to polish it off? Id just not be sure of AI dose, and I do not want tons of zits and any bad sides......I live where its hot so its always beach time and I dont want a zitty back haah....

Again Im tossing all this around, I have other bills to pay, and my source is taking a nap right now for a while and not sure when it will go good to go again....and I have a TON of legit pharm grade prescription Test Ive stockpiled during times of going low dose or trying to wean off my TRT....

With my goals of not getting huge, just leaner or stronger and staying near same weight, would it be risking too much to do 600mg Test a week, it sounds like a ton to me haha.....BUT say I do that, I use gear I already have, pay nothing out of pocket (I even have tons of extra Arimidex so thats not even an issue).....so I could use up old Test I have, old Deca, and the Tbol and Winny and have a "free" blast for this winter.....then I can pay my real world bills, and potentially save the cash for a summer blast of Primo and/or Masteron.....Im soooooooo curious what I could do with Primo+Masteron+Var.....so that would be sweet in the summer to hit a combo of those, with to me seemingly less risk of zits or sides....

What do you think? Again hope I dont seem like an ass, Im just brainstorming ways to use up old gear I have and be financially prudent....and maybe have a chance to run Primo in the summer....at a minimum in summer Ill do Masteron+Var.....

I guess I sound like a baby scared of too much Test! haahh Dont want to bloat, dont want to put on tons of weight, and do not want zits!!

haah thanks guys