Deca and tren together, anyone?

[40butpumpin]

I'm looking for advice, tips, etc., anything info on experiences I can get would be much appreciated. Also, anyone who feels strongly against it I'd like to hear from you also.

 

[40butpumpin]

Oh, I'm talking deca at 400mg/wk and tren at 75mg/day for approximately 8 weeks. I might also throw in 100mg of prop once per week to keep up the sex drive. Thanks for any help.

 

[fallenangel]

from what i've heard tren doesn't like deca and deca doesn't like tren but as i've never tried either maybe you should wait for a post from a more experineced bro

 

[Crankin'steiN]

I also have never tried that stack, but when looking at both drugs I don't see a good reason to not put them together. The fina is obviously the harsh one, and deca usually has very little side effects, and will keep your joints pain free while you get BIG!

Just my opinion, remember I've never tried it.

 

[40butpumpin]

...and deca usually has very little side effects, and will keep your joints pain free while you get BIG!

This is what I was thinking. Anyone else? Come on, help a brutha out!

 

[rj420]

well

both produce sides via progesterone, so watch for the gyno. I'd definitely go ahead and throw test in there bro. Your sex drive will plummet with deca and tren. A small concurrent dose of HCG might prove beneficial, like 500i.u. every 7-10 days to keep the nutz from atrophy. Both tren and deca suppress the HPTA very well, so a long recuperative time post cycle can be expected.

 

[nuh_mizer]

Re: well

both produce sides via progesterone, so watch for the gyno.

I think thats the biggest reason not to take them together.

 

[40butpumpin]

Bump, I need some more help guys.

 

[Nimrod25]

Bump, I need some more help guys.

The only problem I see is the lack of sex drive due to progesterone. Neither drug aromatizes to an alarming degree, and the causes of gyno by each are different, Fina is due to a prolactin increase, while Deca can cause PR and ER gyno but both are very rare and dose related. Add in some test and a nice anti-aromatase and grow.

 

[daveyboy]

"your sex drive will plummet with deca & tren"

That's the first thing I thought of too. I bet your dick will be dead in the water with that combo. Might need to stock up on some cialis & definitely some proviron. Strength gains should be nice though....

 

[40butpumpin]

The only problem I see is the lack of sex drive due to progesterone. Neither drug aromatizes to an alarming degree, and the causes of gyno by each are different, Fina is due to a prolactin increase, while Deca can cause PR and ER gyno but both are very rare and dose related. Add in some test and a nice anti-aromatase and grow.

Thanks bro for your input. But doesn't what you're saying mean that the risk of gyno is not additive. My fear was based on the two combining to cause a double risk of getting gyno. But if you're telling me that it's a completely different mechanism, I should at most only be in danger of what it would be with either one alone. I think that's what this mean anyway.

I'll add in the Prop at one or twice per week at 100mg, Arimidex and also intermitant HCG and see what happens. But I'll tell you, after 3 weeks of deca and a little over a week of the spectro tren I can feel and see a little something going on. I feel harder and I'm looking fuller in the right places.

But if I do see signs of gyno, what would be the best recourse, slam it with Vitex and Clomid?

 

[shreve2]

I would use bromocriptin or however you spell it. It is supposed to block prolactin or progersterine, and increase sex drive.

 

[Nimrod25]

Thanks bro for your input. But doesn't what you're saying mean that the risk of gyno is not additive. My fear was based on the two combining to cause a double risk of getting gyno. But if you're telling me that it's a completely different mechanism, I should at most only be in danger of what it would be with either one alone. I think that's what this mean anyway.

Thats exactly what I am saying.

I'll add in the Prop at one or twice per week at 100mg, Arimidex and also intermitant HCG and see what happens. But I'll tell you, after 3 weeks of deca and a little over a week of the spectro tren I can feel and see a little something going on. I feel harder and I'm looking fuller in the right places.

Sounds good, keep it up.

But if I do see signs of gyno, what would be the best recourse, slam it with Vitex and Clomid? [/B][/QUOTE]

Some Bromo, and Nolvadex.

 

[Dr.RobertBanner]

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=160186&highlight=tren+deca

 

[40butpumpin]

Deca and Tren, can cause gyno throught the same mechanism, correct? So would running deca and tren at the same time put you at a much higher risk of gyno than either alone?

But if you're telling me that it's a completely different mechanism, I should at most only be in danger of what it would be with either one alone.

Wow, my sentence is so similar to Dr.Robert's I must have read it without realizing it and just regurgitated it but if I did I sure as hell can't remember.

Seriously, after reading the thread I'm a bit worried about the hpta suppression and a seriously limp noodle. I don't know, I may have to rethink this one. Either way I'll add prop, arimidex and hcg.

Thanks for all the responses.