Deca @ 200 or Enan/Deca @ 100/100 ?

[Dave949]

Would there be any difference or benefit between doing a low dose per week of 200 enan OR 200 Deca compared to stacking 100 enan with 100 deca ? Unsure if doing both (enan & deca) at 100/100 would achieve anything beneficial (aside from enan assisting in possible libido issues) as opposed to doing 200 mgs. once a week of either one ?

I am asking because I have available to me (will have script by very liberal doc) either of these three and while I am waiting for my blood test results which I took Oct 19th. trying to make a decision what to order for my first (easy does it) cycle. Considering the 100/100 or 100/100 along with 20 - 40 mgs. ed of var. as well as doing var only @ 40 mgs. ed as well as 200 deca alone as well as 200 enan alone. Cycle length would be approximately 6 - 10 weeks. Goal: 10 - 12 lbs. lbm. Input and opinions would be appreciated. pct would be hcg and nolva.


stats:
age: 48
5` 9", 182 lbs.
been lifting consistently for 22+ years natty

Thanks

 

[GreekGod]

Would there be any difference or benefit between doing a low dose per week of 200 enan OR 200 Deca compared to stacking 100 enan with 100 deca ? Unsure if doing both (enan & deca) at 100/100 would achieve anything beneficial (aside from enan assisting in possible libido issues) as opposed to doing 200 mgs. once a week of either one ?

I am asking because I have available to me (will have script by very liberal doc) either of these three and while I am waiting for my blood test results which I took Oct 19th. trying to make a decision what to order for my first (easy does it) cycle. Considering the 100/100 or 100/100 along with 20 - 40 mgs. ed of var. as well as doing var only @ 40 mgs. ed as well as 200 deca alone as well as 200 enan alone. Cycle length would be approximately 6 - 10 weeks. Goal: 10 - 12 lbs. lbm. Input and opinions would be appreciated. pct would be hcg and nolva.


stats:
age: 48
5` 9", 182 lbs.
been lifting consistently for 22+ years natty

Thanks

200mg/week of steroids is too low a dosage in my opinion, maybe the only thing that gives significant results at that dosage is dianabol (30mg/day).
I would suggest you get whatever you can legally, and then get some more "via other routes". Get the deca and the var from your doc because these are the most expensive drugs, and then get at least 250mg of test from a source. However if you insist on taking only 200mg, then take 200mg of test.

 

[turbogreek]

i did 300mg/wk of RX grade deca for 12 weeks through my doc too. i don't think that 200mg deca/week would really give you much in gains at all but it'll be good for the joints.

fuck that...go with enanthate and var. you'll get nice hard gains. have some nolva ready just in case of gyno, though that shouldn't really be a problem at that low dose. you should see minimal but nice lean gains. var ROCKS!

 

[Dave949]

200mg/week of steroids is too low a dosage in my opinion, maybe the only thing that gives significant results at that dosage is dianabol (30mg/day).
I would suggest you get whatever you can legally, and then get some more "via other routes". Get the deca and the var from your doc because these are the most expensive drugs, and then get at least 250mg of test from a source. However if you insist on taking only 200mg, then take 200mg of test.

Thanks for your opinion Greek, I do appreciate it. I can get whatever from my HRT doc at whatever strengths .....he is very very liberal, but for the first exploratory cycle or two I want to take it easy and slow and make adjustments as I go.

 

[Dave949]

i did 300mg/wk of RX grade deca for 12 weeks through my doc too. i don't think that 200mg deca/week would really give you much in gains at all but it'll be good for the joints.

fuck that...go with enanthate and var. you'll get nice hard gains. have some nolva ready just in case of gyno, though that shouldn't really be a problem at that low dose. you should see minimal but nice lean gains. var ROCKS!

Thanks Turbo !!! How was your gains @ 300 Deca for 12 weeks and how much did you retain ?

I can go many routes with my doc..... 200 deca/100 enan...200 enan/100 deca, 200 D/200 E, 400/200, etc. etc.

 

[turbogreek]

i went from 183 to 192 but i was eating everything all the time. i finally went up to 197and started dieting hard and finally did my pct (the deca shut me down hard). that was back in late august. right now i am at a steady 191-193lbs. so i kept about 18 to 10 lbs.

 

[Dave949]

i went from 183 to 192 but i was eating everything all the time. i finally went up to 197and started dieting hard and finally did my pct (the deca shut me down hard). that was back in late august. right now i am at a steady 191-193lbs. so i kept about 18 to 10 lbs.

Whats your age bro ?

 

[help4john]

Dave...glad to find someone taking it slow their first time. You should be commended for your education and research efforts.

Test only should be everyone's first cycle. You are fortunate to have a doc that will prescribe it for you. You are on the right track.....200mg Test only per week for 10 weeks. Since this is your first cycle you will notice the results in both muscle mass and sex drive.

No need to add orals in the mix at this point. Let's see how your body reacts and if any sides occur. If sides do occur and you are mixing gear, it becomes difficult to determine which one caused the sides. Although Var is mild....first cycle s/b simple....just like you have layed out.

I don't like Deca for a first cycle....not even along side Test. It affects people differently but does show excellent results. Perhaps this can be incorporated in your second cycle....yes, you'll be back for more.

Interesting to see your Test results. If they are low .... you will be more than happy with 200mg Test....at least to start.

Wish you good luck in your endeavor!

 

[turbogreek]

Whats your age bro ?

i'm 30y/o

 

[Dave949]

Dave...glad to find someone taking it slow their first time. You should be commended for your education and research efforts.

Test only should be everyone's first cycle. You are fortunate to have a doc that will prescribe it for you. You are on the right track.....200mg Test only per week for 10 weeks. Since this is your first cycle you will notice the results in both muscle mass and sex drive.

No need to add orals in the mix at this point. Let's see how your body reacts and if any sides occur. If sides do occur and you are mixing gear, it becomes difficult to determine which one caused the sides. Although Var is mild....first cycle s/b simple....just like you have layed out.

I don't like Deca for a first cycle....not even along side Test. It affects people differently but does show excellent results. Perhaps this can be incorporated in your second cycle....yes, you'll be back for more.

Interesting to see your Test results. If they are low .... you will be more than happy with 200mg Test....at least to start.

Wish you good luck in your endeavor!

Thanks John. One does acquire some wisdom with age and I am trying to exercise this cautionary wisdom towards my first cycle, lol

I plan on posting my blood work results. I have seriously thought about doing only one gear exactly for the reason you mentioned concerning possible sides and even at these low doses one never knows and the sides could be compounded by my age (48). I do appreciate your input and sharing your experience with me.

Oh...I`m sure I`ll be back for more bro but after lifting for over 22 years natty I can wait an extra couple weeks to do this as intelligently as possible which includes feedback form EF members like yourself and all the others that replied and will reply to my thread.

 

[Dave949]

i'm 30y/o

Thanks Turbo

 

[turbogreek]

anytime dave...good luck. keep us posted.