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Death Penalty Opponents......Spare the Snipers?

gymtime

gymtime

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Assuming these two guys are the actual snipers (and that seems a pretty safe bet as they seem guilty as sin right now), can you honestly say they should not be executed?
 
Executed? We need to learn a lesson from civilized countries. In ancient Greece... pretty much the birth place of modern philosophy can much of our culture... they would have been given a rusty sword and a tin can to wear as a helmet. Then, day after day they would be put into the battle pit to be mauled by lions, wild dogs, tigers, bears, etc... until they died (of natural causes!)

Why give them, lethal injection when we can turn their lives into a Pay Per View event on HBO?
 
Put the guy to a firingsquad and make the kid watch. Then give the kid the electricchair. Televised of course!
 
gymtime said:


Why?
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That case probably is quite clear, but there have been many cases in which people were executed who actually were innocent.

To prevent innocent people from being killed, it ´s better to put them in prison, so if it might become obvious lateron that someone innocent was in prison he could still be released.
That´s not possible after execution.


They once made a movie , In the name of the father, i think it was called,wich was about 2 guys that were convicted for a bombing from the IRA, yet were innocent.
The judge said something along that he wanted to execute them, but the prosecution attorney didn´t charge them for high treason else they would have been murdered for a crime they didn´t commit.

That´s why i´m against death penalty in general. The sniper case is probably quite clear, but not every case in which people are executed is.

I think spending the rest of your life in prison is just as bad as execution, if not even worse.
 
I definitely say that we shouldn't kill them.

but not because I'm against that.

I just feel that is too easy, fast, and painless.

I think they should be released into the general population and make it well known who they are.
even then, I feel they would be killed pretty quickly.
I'd rather they have a very slow and painful death.

the movie se7en comes to mind
 
I disagree. Prison is only really miserable for the first few months or so. Humans are extremely adaptable and get used to it after a while. It's not the punishment everyone thinks it is.

But for the sake of arguement, let's say they are known to be guilty...that they confessed to it...proudly even. Still send them to prison?
 
My problem is not that these guys might be innocent, but that as soon as death penalty is part of the jurisdiction, sooner or later a judge will make an incorrect decision and an innocent dies.
Maybe not in that case, but in another. It happened and it will happen again.
That´s why i´m against death penalty in general.
I´d rather have some guilty murderer in prison than some not guilty person executed.
 
If they are guilty beyond any, any doubt, strip them down, tie them face down over a barrel, and make them "entertain" the other inmates until there butts are turned inside out and they bleed to death. While we're at it, yank all their teeth w.o. any anesthetic and make their mouths do some "entertaining" as well!

Same goes for any of those helping the 9-11 terrorists as well.
 
gymtime said:

But for the sake of arguement, let's say they are known to be guilty...that they confessed to it...proudly even. Still send them to prison?
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I don't think they will last long in prison. the way they would die in prison would be far worse than lethal injection.

that and the raping.
 
I think SG is right on the money. Two birds with one stone. Incredible entertainment, and justice towards them. Why the hell not? Damn I wish I was in charge.
 
Prison is a joke for most inmates. Go there and watch it by yourself. You have everything you can find in real life. Including gangs, mobs leaders walking with bodyguard, booze, weed, weapons. Concerning the snippers, things would be far different. This type of criminal usually ends up in a body bag.......
 
Norman Bates said:
sooner or later a judge will make an incorrect decision and an innocent dies.
Maybe not in that case, but in another. It happened and it will happen again.
That´s why i´m against death penalty in general.
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You mean the jury, right? The judge doesn't hand down an execution order. The whole process of trial and appeals is to ensure that the convicted felon is indeed the perpetrator. Opponents of the death penalty always want to throw their hands up in fear of accidentally executing an innocent person. This does not happen as often as liberals would like to assume. I would much rather have them put to death than for us to furnish a nice comfortable lifestyle with cable TV and meals for the rest of their life. Convicts who get life should be sentenced to 12-14hr days of hard labor.
 
Take them off the tax payer's payroll. Take away their comfortable like in prison with good meals and cable TV. Take away the gift of life -

Execute them

a dead criminal can't commit another crime....ever.
 
Jimsbbc said:
Take them off the tax payer's payroll. Take away their comfortable like in prison with good meals and cable TV. Take away the gift of life -

Execute them

a dead criminal can't commit another crime....ever.
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Couldnt agree more.
 
A buddy of mine went to Uganda in Africa this summer. As you may know AIDS is running rampant in parts of Africa. Somewhere in Africa or off the coast there is an island where 100% of the inhabitants have AIDS or are HIV positive. If you are found to have the virus, they send you to this island to die so you can't infect anyone else.

Yeah, that sounds like a good place to send these guys.....
 
Tarheel said:
A buddy of mine went to Uganda in Africa this summer. As you may know AIDS is running rampant in parts of Africa. Somewhere in Africa or off the coast there is an island where 100% of the inhabitants have AIDS or are HIV positive. If you are found to have the virus, they send you to this island to die so you can't infect anyone else.

Yeah, that sounds like a good place to send these guys.....
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Now here is something to think about. What if those people on the island that survive become the dominant race because HIV ravages the west and they une to are immune to it because they were put on that island?
 
2Thick said:


Now here is something to think about. What if those people on the island that survive become the dominant race because HIV ravages the west and they une to are immune to it because they were put on that island?
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Must you poop all over my death penalty thread? :confused:
 
Then I guess the militant Islamics and Al-Quida were right and the blue eyed devil that controls the West would then be killed off.
 
Lets see..

shoot them with two bullets....

OR

imprison them for life which costs rediculous amounts of money that could be used to feed the homeless, clean up the environment, etc....

I'll pay for the two bullets...and I'll stop in Sanford Maine to pick up a Bushmaster rifle to shoot these two clowns with.

Make the punishment fit the crime for once.
 
Real life training for our real military snipers huh? Hey that doesn't sound to bad.

Now if only the military could try him for treason or something since he was in the Marines...
 
Jimsbbc said:
You mean the jury, right? The judge doesn't hand down an execution order. The whole process of trial and appeals is to ensure that the convicted felon is indeed the perpetrator. Opponents of the death penalty always want to throw their hands up in fear of accidentally executing an innocent person. This does not happen as often as liberals would like to assume. I would much rather have them put to death than for us to furnish a nice comfortable lifestyle with cable TV and meals for the rest of their life. Convicts who get life should be sentenced to 12-14hr days of hard labor.
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I don´t know how the legal system works in the USA.
Fact is, innocent persons are sometimes executed, which should not happen at any costs, rather let them rot in prison.

I have no problem with hard work for them.
 
Jimsbbc said:
Opponents of the death penalty always want to throw their hands up in fear of accidentally executing an innocent person. This does not happen as often as liberals would like to assume.
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It happens all the time.

It took a high school class to set one man free after 12-18 years on death row. That is not much brain power.

Statistically, about 15-20% are innocent. That is pretty damn high.

In fact, about 100 people were found not guilty on DNA evidence alone in the past 10 years.
 
I have no problem with capitol punishment. An eye for an eye. 2 thick, you have said that it is hypocrital(I believe) to kill to show that killing is wrong. I don't believe that killing is always wrong. Sometimes it is justified. If someone snuffed out the life of my daughter, I'm going to kill that motherfucker if I get a chance. Killing my daughter was wrong. Is killing the bastard that did it wrong? Not IMO. Why should that son-of-a bitch be allowed to take another breath when my daughter cannot?
 
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