Dbol for cutting?

[SlimJim300]

Since dianabol is such a great anti-catabolic, could it be potentially useful for cutting with if you used nolvadex and/or an AA throughout? It's so cheap, and it seems like it would be an interesting experiment.

About estrogen and fat gain: If you were to run, say test propionate for a given amount of time, would you lose any less fat than if you had used an anti-estrogen along with it? This is after water retention is gone, of course. With dianabol, much of the bloat obviously comes from estrogen, but I've heard of people still experiencing it while using anti-estrogens. Is this due to a change in mineral/electrolyte balance?

 

[hammertime30]

Since dianabol is such a great anti-catabolic, could it be potentially useful for cutting with if you used nolvadex and/or an AA throughout? It's so cheap, and it seems like it would be an interesting experiment.

About estrogen and fat gain: If you were to run, say test propionate for a given amount of time, would you lose any less fat than if you had used an anti-estrogen along with it? This is after water retention is gone, of course. With dianabol, much of the bloat obviously comes from estrogen, but I've heard of people still experiencing it while using anti-estrogens. Is this due to a change in mineral/electrolyte balance?

steriods don't bulk or cut, diet does....using dbol at low dosage say 10-20mg offers the ability to bulk or cut....with a strict diet and use of an aromatase inhibitor you can cut down fat without losing muscle.....bloating for the most part comes from a surplus of sodium and/or potassium....water follows solutes and sodium is a solute.....taking in excessive sodium will cause you to retain water period....also certain AAS's cause you to retain sodium so there you go....just like diuretics....it induces the shedding of sodium thus water follows it....estrogen and sodium don't mix which is why my wife's stomach swells up after taco bell....women are more sensitive to sodium due to the higher levels of estrogen...since explaining this to my wife and having her increase potassium and decrease sodium during her monthlys, she's noticed that she no longer bloats as badly as she did in the past....

 

[gregory]

steriods don't bulk or cut, diet does....using dbol at low dosage say 10-20mg offers the ability to bulk or cut....with a strict diet and use of an aromatase inhibitor you can cut down fat without losing muscle.....bloating for the most part comes from a surplus of sodium and/or potassium....water follows solutes and sodium is a solute.....taking in excessive sodium will cause you to retain water period....also certain AAS's cause you to retain sodium so there you go....just like diuretics....it induces the shedding of sodium thus water follows it....estrogen and sodium don't mix which is why my wife's stomach swells up after taco bell....women are more sensitive to sodium due to the higher levels of estrogen...since explaining this to my wife and having her increase potassium and decrease sodium during her monthlys, she's noticed that she no longer bloats as badly as she did in the past....

Good post.

 

[Mavy]

Good post hammertime. You are right .. its all diet. Although anavar has been shown to help with vicseral fat. I agree ..its not overly the roid, but diet and training that cut you. A lot of pros supposedly use drol for cutting. Dbol being the mother of all catabolics (except tren), would be an excellent choice for cutting when diet and everything else is in check. Dbol is a "muli-prupose drug" in my mind, works the best for everything, building muscle as well as preserving it.

 

[SlimJim300]

Of course it's the diet, and not the roid. But to make sure I'm being clear, water retention does not hinder fat loss, but only temporarily masks a low BF, correct?

 

[hammertime30]

Of course it's the diet, and not the roid. But to make sure I'm being clear, water retention does not hinder fat loss, but only temporarily masks a low BF, correct?

Yes...water and fat are not the same....you can carry 10lbs of water and not notice it, but rather look fuller and denser, but you will notice 10lbs of fat....