dbol as a bridge - anybody done it or have considerable knowledge on it?

[decem]

i've read where you can use dbol as a bridge and have some questions regarding this.

what dosages should you use? i remember seeing 20mg upon waking... is this right - can a lower dose, say 10mg, still be effective.

how long? ok, i know that's stupid as if one is "bridging" then they're doing it the whole time between cycles right... BUT, i am not really interested in doing it the whole time between cycles. i am wondering if i were to take 10-20mg ed upon waking for the next 3-4 weeks following my cycle, if it would help me that much more in keeping gains.

so if i were to do it following the cycle... would i start doing this when doing clomid therapy? after? before? actually i'll be running winny all the way up to my clomid but if i weren't could i take it following my last shot - all the way through clomid therapy - and then some more (say a few weeks) - and have it make a considerable difference in the gains kept post-cycle.

just curious.. any input from vets (not just vets of the board btw, but vets to the AAS scene..) is greatly appreciated.

 

[Andy13]

According to Bill Roberts, up to 100mg of dbol can be taken a day (before noon) and have little affect on HTPA...

The only downside is that orals are tremendously more effective if broken up and taken throughout the day.


Andy

 

[ragin']

andy, that's true. i used to take 'em all at once. but when i would break them up throughout the day my gains were much better. correct me if i'm wrong but dbols only have a 4-6 hour half-life.

 

[Andy13]

That's right.. Taking dbol once a day is about like injecting tren once a week.

 

[badazzwhitedude]

According to Bill Roberts, up to 100mg of dbol can be taken a day (before noon) and have little affect on HTPA...

What explanation is there for this? I am very curious about this. Is it because of the short half-life and isn't in your system long enough through the day to shut it down? (considering you take it all before noon)

 

[Maxx Out]

I'd also like to know about an effective d-bol bridge..........bbbbbuuuuummmmmppppp!!!!!

 

[decem]

ok. so far it looks like i can take as much dbol as i want, as long as i take it before noon, without worrying about adverse hpta effects, BUT i'll get pretty much SHIT out of it so why waste the money and the dbol and instead just use primo to bridge..


does this sound about right?

or are there some folks out there that can attest to the effectiveness of dbol as a bridge?

 

[GFI]

Bro, my friend just did it...He did 30mgs a day for 4 weeks until his next cycle...He did some Halo as well....His liver was probably loving it!!!

 

[decem]

up ya go...

 

[MikeyLikesJuice]

yes you can bridge with it, but 100mg before noon, of course stay far away from that. Hopefully you get up around 6-8am, take them as soon as you get up and eat, and 4hrs later take it again, this will be before 12, and because of the half life your hpta should be fine. I notice if I take 30mg at one time of d-bol I can't get through a workout without having to stop because of the pump, especially my lower back, I can't walk some time. Matter of fact I get to pumped now @ 10mg every 4hrs, so you have to figure out a dose that works for you later

 

[Yellowbomber]

Dbols for bridging, oh bro better buy some anavars or Primos

 

[liftsiron]

Andy if up to 100mg of D-bol before noon does not effect HTPA, which it may not. Why is it that so many guys using even 20mg a day before noon, have trouble, or can't ejaculate during sex without the addition of test. This is an observation that I have encountered many times over the years, with different guys on D-bol only cycle. I don't have the answer, but it use to happen to me as well. I was told this by different guys, mind you, I like girls. I'm just wondering if you have any ideas, or if have come by any research regarding this.

 

[AnabolicAgent]

Bump, This is interesting info!


Did Bill do a study or something? Did he gather some information that we could look at?

I thought that Dbol strongly suppresses the HPTA even at low doses.


Andy13: According to Bill Roberts, up to 100mg of dbol can be taken a day (before noon) and have little affect on HTPA...

The only downside is that orals are tremendously more effective if broken up and taken throughout the day.

 

[reconnect]

i vote yes! i would do like 15-20mg before working out and do colmid after

 

[WannaImpress]

, bump for more info!

 

[Andy13]

Inhibition and Recovery of Natural Testosterone

I suggest you read the entire article, but here's the extract..

"Because high androgen levels sustained around the clock will cause inhibition, traditional cycles simply cannot avoid inhibition of LH production while on cycle. There are three ways to avoid it:

Avoid having high androgen levels around the clock. This can be done, for example, by using oral AAS only in the morning, with the last dose being approximately at noontime. Even 100 mg/day Dianabol can be used in this fashion with little inhibition. The problem with this approach is that gains are not very good compared to what is seen when high androgen levels are sustained around the clock.
Use an amount and kind of AAS that is low enough to avoid much inhibition. Primobolan at 200-400 mg/week may achieve this effect. Again, gains will be compromised compared to a more substantial cycle. Testosterone esters and Deca are substantially inhibitory even at 100 mg/week so using a low dose of these drugs will simply result in both inhibition and poor gains.
In principle, one could use an antiandrogen, but this would totally defeat the purpose of the cycle. "

 

[reconnect]

jep and this

Oral AAS: These do not assist recovery of natural testosterone production, but if used only in the morning, can help sustain muscle mass while in the recovery phase, with little or no adverse effect on recovery.

 

[Ulter]

Yes you can do this and yes it may work. But Bill Roberts is not the reason to do it. He is making this statement with NO MEDICAL BACKGROUND, NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE, AND NO LAB WORK TO BACK IT UP. This guy burns my ass. He is an armchair endocrinologist who writes his theories like he is a physician with scores of patients whoes bloodwork backs up his claims. He makes claims like this and is not responsible for what he says because he is not a physician and doesn't answer to anyone.

Go ahead Bill get in the ring with Dr Scruggs just once.

You should not use this method unless it is a last resort for bridging. I have a good friend who uses this method and swears by it. He does not however have any lab work to show that it is indeed allowing LH production so it is only that he likes it and feels it is working. Buy some oxandrolone, there is plenty of legitamate research that is works and allows the production of LH, albiet low, it's still there.

 

[musclebrains]

Agreed, Ulter, about Roberts. But so MUCH of what you read about AS seems to be people's anecdotal experience. I wish there were better science on this subject somewhere.

 

[liftsiron]

I have to agree with you Ulter, I've always thought that d-bol is a poor choice to bridge with. I perfer primo and anavar, or just primo alone.

 

[Andy13]

Like what, Utler? What does Bill say that you disagree with? I'll tell you what... I'd believe him over anybody... He has, as fas as I'm concerned the best credentials for an AAS guru.. I'd believe him over some juice monster who has never taken a college biology class and parrots what everyone else says.

Andy

 

[marky]

Ok, here's one experience with dbol bridging.
I wanted to see if I could bring my HPTA system
back to normal after a long cycle by using methandrostenolone during a 2 month span.

The first 3 weeks off I did the clomid and even hcg to
bring things back to norm. I took 1.5cc reforvit as 2
doses. One on waking the other in the early afternoon.

In summary: I maintained all my weight gains and strength. Although without the anabolic stack, I wasnt
as hard, but still looked good.

The problem though is that I began to crave the dose to have any energy or motivation. I felt lethargic and weak most of the afternoon through the evening. My HPTA never restored. After the end of the second month I began my next cycle and with the test back I felt great again.

 

[Golfer18--old]

Where is the thread saying that 10mg of anavar while bridging will shut you down???

 

[Golfer18--old]

This is a qoute from ZYGLAMAIL

"Myself and a few others have been saying anavar will shut you down for quite some time yet the question is always asked time and time again. Ive seen abstracts showing as little as 2.5mg/ed to have an effect on hpta."

 

[Primal X]

sk*, go to AnabolicFitness. They have alot of good info about morning d-bol bridges.