dbol (4 weeks), then prop after.... good idea ?

[aussiebra]

Hey guise, long time lurker first time poster!

Ok i have tried searching but havent found anything helpful. What do you guys think about me running dbol for 4 weeks then starting the test prop .. as test prop is short estered there shouldn't be any need to run the two together anyway.

For example...

DBOL (week 1- 4) 20mg/day, (week 5-6) 5mg/day
PROP (week 5 - 14) 150mg EOD

Nolva PCT

The theory is that i can run a cycle for longer and the week 5 and 6 would just be 5mg a day to prevent crashing after dbol and while the prop kinda kicks in!!

Second cycle. age late 20s, weight 95kg, height 184cm

what do ya think boyz?

 

[sweed]

Hey guise, long time lurker first time poster!

Ok i have tried searching but havent found anything helpful. What do you guys think about me running dbol for 4 weeks then starting the test prop .. as test prop is short estered there shouldn't be any need to run the two together anyway.

For example...

DBOL (week 1- 4) 20mg/day, (week 5-6) 5mg/day
PROP (week 5 - 14) 150mg EOD

Nolva PCT

The theory is that i can run a cycle for longer and the week 5 and 6 would just be 5mg a day to prevent crashing after dbol and while the prop kinda kicks in!!

Second cycle. age late 20s, weight 95kg, height 184cm

what do ya think boyz?

Is this a first cycle? if you wanna do a longer cycle 12-14 weeks, enanthate would be a better choice, plus only injecting twice a week, then you can use dbol to kick start it for the first 4 weeks, while using the enanthate to 'kick in'.
You're pct needs a lot of work! A LOT! Please do some researching on that.
My suggestion, if you wanna use prop, use it 6-8 weeks eod. dbol of 4 weeks. start pct 1-3 days later for 4-6 weeks.

so your 209-210 at 6'1- 6'2"ish, if my calculations are correct
Good stats, whats your bf around, if you happen to know it, or can make an accurate guess (people tend to think they are a lot less than they really are).

What are your goals for the cycle as well?

 

[aussiebra]

No this is my second cycle...my first cycle was a superdrol, test E and prop cycle lasting around 10 weeks... i managed to gain 20lbs but quickly lost it due to illness and the fact that i only used nolva for PCT... i will chase down clomid and nolva for the next cycle

My bodyfat is kinda high.. im sort of a chubby ectomorph type... no visible abs at all!!!

Another reason why i want to do the dbol seperate to the prop is the fact that i can sort of "bulk" during the dbol period and then slowly cut with the prop. I guess my aims of the cycle is to bulk up without gaining too much bodyfat... either way its winter in aus now so i could just bulk and cut later for summer.

I just havent seen anyone start a cycle with dbol only and then lead onto the test straight after... most just combine the test and dbol at the start for a kickstart,, TA

 

[aussiebra]

bump? anyone...

Surely someone has done this kinda thing before?
Dbol as a kickstarter before i actually shoot the test!?

 

[joe d]

heres a better plan
1-8 dbol 15mg ed split between between 3 doses
1-10 test prop 150 mg eod
1-11 .25mg adex eod
start pct 3 days after last test shot
week 1-3 40mg nolva ed
week 4 20mg nolva ed
week 1-4 topical sustain alpha

 

[stevesmi]

joe is the expert in dbol on here. i would take his advice on this.

 

[aussiebra]

joe is the expert in dbol on here. i would take his advice on this.

Yeah ive thought about running low dose throughout a cycle alongside with test. Ive searched around the net but can't find any info about people that have done that before. Almost everyone uses it as a kickstarter or as a standalone.

 

[stevesmi]

Yeah ive thought about running low dose throughout a cycle alongside with test. Ive searched around the net but can't find any info about people that have done that before. Almost everyone uses it as a kickstarter or as a standalone.

I've used it as a kickstart once and ran low dosage longer once

both strategies did their intended jobs for me.

i also liked to take some before my workout, even as just a placebo effect and to make me realize i was spending money on this so i better bust my ass hard in the gym

 

[aussiebra]

I've used it as a kickstart once and ran low dosage longer once

both strategies did their intended jobs for me.

i also liked to take some before my workout, even as just a placebo effect and to make me realize i was spending money on this so i better bust my ass hard in the gym

Hmm yeah ive used it before as a kid for a few weeks lol... it blew me up of course and that was on 20mg a day. I used mdrol at the start and finish of my last test e cycle and like it ALOT.. im really concerned about my liver tho.. its been through a hell of alot of alcohol and illicit drugs even on cycle in the past...

 

[stevesmi]

Hmm yeah ive used it before as a kid for a few weeks lol... it blew me up of course and that was on 20mg a day. I used mdrol at the start and finish of my last test e cycle and like it ALOT.. im really concerned about my liver tho.. its been through a hell of alot of alcohol and illicit drugs even on cycle in the past...

if you are gonna do alcohol and illicit drugs even off cycle then you are wasting your money on steroids.

 

[Dogfox]

heres a better plan
1-8 dbol 15mg ed split between between 3 doses
1-10 test prop 150 mg eod
1-11 .25mg adex eod
start pct 3 days after last test shot
week 1-3 40mg nolva ed
week 4 20mg nolva ed
week 1-4 topical sustain alpha

do this but with HCG 250 ius x2 per week at week 5. Nice work joseph.

 

[downunder hunter]

do this but with HCG 250 ius x2 per week at week 5. Nice work joseph.

Why wait till week 5 when you already have hypogonadism? Isnt the idea of running hcg during a cycle to prevent it completely?

 

[downunder hunter]

it usually doesnt start till about week 4 a cycle

starting from beging of ur cycle isnt best idea becuase ur testies are still kicking

What about if your running an oral? I suppose it is all individual. Personally I would start week two

 

[Dogfox]

What about if your running an oral? I suppose it is all individual. Personally I would start week two

You can start sooner, but 4/5 weeks is generally better. Also bc you become gradually more resistant to hcg the longer you use it