Day After Tomorrow

[chesty]

Crap science or possibility? Give your reasons why.

I don't believe it for two reasons:
1. It was a propaganda film aimed at the US for not signing up to Kyoto

2. The rate of polar ice melting would have to be near instant for the whole shebang to cause an ocean wide temperature drop of 13 degrees as well as for the ratio of fresh to salt water to change rapidly enough to cause what the movie portrays even if it was possible for that to happen.

 

[coldblue1955]

it will never happen like what it did in the movie but something terrible might happen anyway.

 

[Hengst]

not in the time frame in the movie....... BUT as global warming continues and the ice cap on Greenland melts, then we could be3 in real trouble. As the fresh water dilutes the salty sea water, the Gulf Stream will grind to a halt and most of Europe will be forced into an ice age. The only thing keeping europe warm right now is the Gulf Stream. Take a look on a globe and see how far north Europe lies in comparison to cold climate areas of North America.

 

[ChefWide]

If any of the major shelves in Antarctica should have a catastrophic failure, a major volcanic erruption under the sheet, for instance, the effects would be world changing.

That having been said, the time frame in the movie is horseshit.

 

[havoc]

I think I'm going to join the Trenchcoat Mafia today. Is Godzilla a member?



NON-PLATINUM MEMBER

 

[WODIN]

Just so everyone knows. I'm revivng the cult of BAAL.

Anyone got a virgin?

 

[Wynn]

All hail Ba'al!

 

[rnch]

true, the movie is not exactly based on accurate data.


who cares?

it was enjoyable, escapist entertainment.

 

[Scotsman]

Possible yes, in that time frame no. Ice ages are cataclismic events that on geological time are nearly instantaneous. We still have no clue of what truly causes an ice age but it is definitely influenced by the rate of global warming. I know is sounds counterintuitive but you have to warm the planet up before you can get an ice age. That being said we technically are still in the ice age on ice box world. We are in the tail end of it as the world transitions to the green house world. These changes are fairly regular and episodic with high points marking major ice ages. This is just one of the many wonderful geologic cycles of our dynamic planet.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[WODIN]

Got to love the scenes where the instant freeze happens. That shit was cool.

 

[Subzeero]

As ill educated as we all are about climate and how it possibly changes in a chain reaction fashion, we really don't know, so stop bullshiting yourselves.

Instead maybe you can think of it as a possibility.

 

[chesty]

While I was studying astronomy at Wichita State my professor showed me the plots of the cyclic nature of the ice ages. There are major ones with little ones in-between all of which are fairly regular and predictable. As for an instantaneous ice age it would require something well beyond what man is currently doing and it would have to be instaneous as well.

That being said, I loved the instant freeze as well!

What I thought was rather stupid and endemic of "intellectual" people (rich upbringing) is here they are in a building, a library. There was enough wooden furniture around to burn for weeks and what do they do? They burn books! Another subtle hint that the right wing is similar to the Nazis and other extremist groups that burn books etc.

1. Books/paper don't burn very long/well
2. I still want to know how the damnend ocean froze! Given it was still mostly salt water, and the super cold zones hadn't passed yet, it would have already had to have been 50-100 degrees below zero for months to freeze the ocean! and here it froze within a couple of days! Gotta love hollywood!

Still rather fun movie even if it was bullshit!

 

[Scotsman]

While I was studying astronomy at Wichita State my professor showed me the plots of the cyclic nature of the ice ages. There are major ones with little ones in-between all of which are fairly regular and predictable. As for an instantaneous ice age it would require something well beyond what man is currently doing and it would have to be instaneous as well.

That being said, I loved the instant freeze as well!

What I thought was rather stupid and endemic of "intellectual" people (rich upbringing) is here they are in a building, a library. There was enough wooden furniture around to burn for weeks and what do they do? They burn books! Another subtle hint that the right wing is similar to the Nazis and other extremist groups that burn books etc.

1. Books/paper don't burn very long/well
2. I still want to know how the damnend ocean froze! Given it was still mostly salt water, and the super cold zones hadn't passed yet, it would have already had to have been 50-100 degrees below zero for months to freeze the ocean! and here it froze within a couple of days! Gotta love hollywood!

Still rather fun movie even if it was bullshit!

I said the same thing about the tables too. Probably cheaper to burn fake books than to break up furniture.

Only the surface would have frozen of the ocean. It only takes 2' thick ice to support a tank so there wouldn't have had to been much of a layer for them to be runnin around on. Also salt just lowers the freezing point of water it doesn't prevent it from feezing at colder temps like 10 or 20 degrees below zero.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[chesty]

that is true on the freezing of salt water. But for it to freeze that fast it would have to be super cold! The other thing is if it had gotten that cold that quickly to create insta freeze, the oxygen/hydrogen and some other gases in the air would have become liquid and there would have been bigger problems to worry about.

 

[Scotsman]

that is true on the freezing of salt water. But for it to freeze that fast it would have to be super cold! The other thing is if it had gotten that cold that quickly to create insta freeze, the oxygen/hydrogen and some other gases in the air would have become liquid and there would have been bigger problems to worry about.

True on the insta freeze. The other problem I had with the movie was no clear cut sense of time. Like when the girl complains about her leg and then actually goes into shock is supposed to be a couple of days. Also it would take several days for the two guys to walk from outside of NY to the library. I think they said they were 40 miles out then it seemed like the next day they were there. They might be able to make 10 miles a day or so in that weather and dragging supplies. So for arguments sake lets say it was a week to ten days from the time the tanker came in until they were rescued. That would be enough time to freeze up a good layer of ice.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[Ffactor]

The movie changed my entire life.

 

[the nature boy]

I haven't seen the movie, but I predict I'll be rooting for the weather.

 

[eat big]

after they resorted to large, oversized wolves that looked so bad, the movie went to shit. the wolves were blatently fake, plus, wouldnt they have died from the freezing?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

after they resorted to large, oversized wolves that looked so bad, the movie went to shit. the wolves were blatently fake, plus, wouldnt they have died from the freezing?

Wolves are equiped to deal with colder climates than humans. Thought they probably died in the superfreeze that followed the wolf scene.

 

[d3track]

the movie was pretty geigh

not even any tits

 

[chesty]

Still, how cold would it have to be for say 2-3 foot of the entire atlantic ocean to freeze in say even 7 days? Not too mention that now there would be no cattle, dairy products, chickens, farming etc. In that one 10-14 day period I would bet that 9/10 of the worlds food production and supplies was destroyed. That would mean that about 3/4 of the world would starve to death in relatively quick order.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Still, how cold would it have to be for say 2-3 foot of the entire atlantic ocean to freeze in say even 7 days? Not too mention that now there would be no cattle, dairy products, chickens, farming etc. In that one 10-14 day period I would bet that 9/10 of the worlds food production and supplies was destroyed. That would mean that about 3/4 of the world would starve to death in relatively quick order.

No way, there was plenty of frozen meat around.

 

[AAP]

Yeah, but the way Martin Lawrence cracked that super code just as the timer was hitting 001 was nail biting.

 

[eat big]

good call bbf, its been a while since i saw it and thought the freeze passed before the wolf scene

 

[coldblue1955]

just wait until a sequal comes out! The day after next week. What a lame movie that will be. lol.

 

[Scotsman]

Still, how cold would it have to be for say 2-3 foot of the entire atlantic ocean to freeze in say even 7 days? Not too mention that now there would be no cattle, dairy products, chickens, farming etc. In that one 10-14 day period I would bet that 9/10 of the worlds food production and supplies was destroyed. That would mean that about 3/4 of the world would starve to death in relatively quick order.

Well since there was already a 13 degree drop before the actual freeze started then not super cold the ocean freezes up in the arctic and antarctic every year and thaws(thus icebergs). You are exactly correct on the food loss, but remember much of the worlds population would die from the cold so the supply to demand would change greatly. This is actually part of mass extinction and why the animals on the top of the food chain die first as they need the most food to survive.

Cheers,
Scotsman