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A flawed approach on immigration



When it comes to immigration, the administration is laboring to come up with a coherent formula to protect the nation's borders. Judging from recent actions and statements by Department of Homeland Security's Undersecretary Asa Hutchinson, the administration hopes to solve the problem by putting out the welcome mat for millions of illegal immigrants. They ought to go back to the drawing board because this proposal is not in our national interest and will never be passed by a Republican Congress.
According to Mr. Hutchinson, President Bush plans to put forward a plan to give aliens access to travel, so they know they can "go and return freely" to their country of origin "without fear of being denied re-entry" to the United States. Mr. Hutchinson adds that the United States needs to give illegal immigrants access to bilateral agreements allowing them to receive Social Security benefits in their home countries and to allow illegals to create tax-deferred savings accounts that could be withdrawn upon their return to those countries.

Current law says that an alien who has lived illegally in the United States for longer than 180 days must return home and wait three years before applying for legal visitor or immigrant status; if he has been here illegally for more than one year, he needs to wait a decade before re-applying. Since many of the illegal aliens who would participate in the Bush plan would have exceeded the three- and 10-year bars, Mr. Hutchinson wants legislation that would weaken these restrictions. His statements came in response to questions from Sen. Edward Kennedy, who suggested that the Mr. Bush's plan was not generous enough in permitting illegal immigrants to stay in the country.
Compounding the situation is the administration's cave-in to political pressure from open-borders advocates in California, who object to the fact that the Border Patrol enforcers have been too vigorous.
In June, a new 12-officer Mobile Patrol Group under the auspices of the Border Patrol arrested more than 450 illegals in a series of raids in Southern California. Latino advocates and 25 California Democratic members of Congress, led by Rep. Joe Baca and including Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, complained to Mr. Hutchinson. Fifty-three House members, including Majority Leader Tom DeLay, signed a letter to Mr. Hutchinson supporting the stepped-up enforcement. So, what did Mr. Hutchinson do? He sided with Mrs. Pelosi and the open-borders crowd. Mr. Hutchinson declared that future operations conducted away from the border must be approved by department higher-up. The National Border Patrol Council representatives in the San Diego area said last month that the the Mobile Patrol Group had been disbanded.
To be certain, John Kerry's approach would be even worse. But that doesn't get the Bush administration off the hook for tilting toward the Kennedy-Pelosi crowd on a critical issue like safeguarding our borders. The administration is courting a platform fight — and further political trouble down the road with the Republican Party's conservative base — with its ill-considered approach on immigration.
 
I agree with you. Illegal immigration is a very serious issue, so it does needs to be dealt with properly. Especially for a country like this. I think the root of the problem is allowing to seep illegal immigrants into the country on the first place. And trust me, Canadian and Mexican borders are not your only problems. The laws do have to be tougher but one has to acknowlegde the fact that once someone successfully enters the states and lives here for a year then he has access to our legal system and constitutional liabilities which makes it much harder to kick them out. Tougher better more efficient and less cumbersome laws at the borders and at the airports is the way to go.
 
I just don't think either candidate is going to do anything to slow illegal immigration. It looks like both want to increase incentives to illegals to come across. I'm not against immigration, but it just pisses me off that the laws are so blatantly disregarded.
 
The hispanic/mexican population in the US is a HUGE voting power. There's no way in hell they're gonna help elect someone'll do his best to keep their relatives out of the country. And that demographic is only getting bigger and bigger with more kids born each year. Which is why in 50 years, there's gonna be serious talk about inviting mexico into the union. I've seen the plans behind closed doors so i already know it's been talked about in high-level talks.
 
Razorguns said:
T Which is why in 50 years, there's gonna be serious talk about inviting mexico into the union. I've seen the plans behind closed doors so i already know it's been talked about in high-level talks.

Razorman=fed?
 
no. the immigration building is next door to my office building. we all eat in the same cafe, and those ins guys are always blabbin' out all kinds of info.
 
government doesnt do anything about immigration because it does not want to....our economy would go to shit if illegal immigration stopped....who the fuck would do landscaping 18 hours a day, and work in kitchens and flip burgers for pennies on the dollar!
 
fuckin mexicans are pouring into texas like crazy... that plus the ones that are here are breeding like cucarachas. its only a matter of time before texas looks like mexico
 
Maybe some of the people collecting welfare now?

magman1 said:
government doesnt do anything about immigration because it does not want to....our economy would go to shit if illegal immigration stopped....who the fuck would do landscaping 18 hours a day, and work in kitchens and flip burgers for pennies on the dollar!
 
1,000 mexicans jump the border every day. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to start doing the math of what the end result is gonna be in a few years.

doesn't bother me. i'm glad to pay $1500/month for a nice place in la cuz all the mexicans have cornered the market on low income housing in my city. who wants to pay $550/month rent like I did back in CT. hehe. :)
 
Its too late to stop it now. Politicians are whoring themselves out to get their votes. In 50 years or so they will have turned the USA into the same 3rd world shithole they crawled out of. We're on a sinking ship.
 
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