Damn, I love steroids!

[Nutrient-Nut]

What would life be without Anabolic Steroids? Well, IMO, it would suck! I thank God for the arrival of Anabolic Steroids. As a dedicated weight lifter and nutritional expert, steroid supplementation to my weight program is totally beneficial. Damn, I love steroids and weight lifting. If I had to give either one of these up, I'd rather be dead! I started steroids at the age of 18 and I'm now 35 and still going strong. When I was a newbie at age 18, I didn't have a clue to what I was doing and just listened to what the huge bodybuilders told me to do in regard to cycles. B/c of my lack of knowledge at the time, I ended up doing too strong of cycles and therefore experienced many unpleasant side effects - tons of water retention, acne, high-blood pressure, terrible lipid profiles, enlarged prostate, very mild case of gyno (not requiring surgery), skin rashes, accelerated heart rate, joint aches, insomnia, severe case of inhibition of natural test production, mood swings, and of course some roid rages which led to fights. B/c of all these negative things, after 6 heavy cycles, I quit steroids completely for many years. I continued to lift weights without the use of steroids over these years. Then, after so many years of studying about steroids and ways to minimize side effects, I decided to try them again, but this time differently with my added knowledge about the drugs. Since I've started back up, every cycle has been very positive with minimal sides. Damn, I wish that I would have known what I know now about steroids back when I was 18. I could have avoided so many of those nasty side effects and wouldn't have decided to quit. Oh well, some have to learn the hard way I guess!

The point of this post is geared towards the newbies. It is simply to learn as much as possible about AAS's before you start cycling, and you will be able to have minimal side effects and a very positive experience. KNOWLEDGE IS THE KEY FOR SAFETY!

NN

 

[djdjdjddjon]

great post, and im glad you have found things that you love in life, but AAS dont make the world go round (jmho)...i think i could live w/out them, lol...best of luck

 

[dumbell150]

Can you explain what were the most significant changes you applied to your newer cycles?

 

[Zoomster]

I am interested as well, what did you change? What cycle's and/or stacks, time frames etc. have you found to be the best for you?

 

[Nutrient-Nut]

Can you explain what were the most significant changes you applied to your newer cycles?

Sure! I stopped using Testosterone Cypionate and Enanthate entirely. And I reduced dosages drastically on the higher androgens like Dianabol. My cycles consist mainly of steroids that rank higher on the anabolic to androgenic ratio like Primobolan Depot, Equipoise, Deca-Durabolin, Winstrol, and Anavar. I occasionally use Dianabol for mass building limiting my dose to no more than 20 mg per day.

Keep in mind that steroids affect everyone differently and some may not experience sides like I did from various forms of test. Trial and error is sometimes the only way to find out whether your body is going to react positively or negatively to a compound.

NN

 

[454SS]

Good post man
its good that you made your descion the second time out of knowledge and not out of desperation/frustration. I hope that some people out there can learn from that.

 

[Zoomster]

Thanks for the inormation, I am a newbie, started my first cycle, Deca, Test enthanate. I like what I read about Primo. Can you compare the results that you have had with primo vs. test?

 

[bbforlife]

good post

 

[nice6pac]

yea man androgens suck balls as far as sides, especialyl long term, lessoned learned, but the strength is so damn tempting

 

[JP@Ironology]

Nutrient-Nut,

I can't imagine starting at 18 years old. I could see how one could get into trouble with sides if too young and inexperienced. You probably had no idea about anti-e's, etc. back then.?

Good post, makes sense to me.

 

[Nutrient-Nut]

Nutrient-Nut,

I can't imagine starting at 18 years old. I could see how one could get into trouble with sides if too young and inexperienced. You probably had no idea about anti-e's, etc. back then.?

Good post, makes sense to me.

Well, back then was in the mid 80's and all we had was Nolvadex, but it was very expensive and most people didn't use it. Arimidex wasn't around and I'm sure that it would have lessened lots of my sides if I ran it along with the Testosterones. I never used any anti-estrogens except for my very last cycle where I ran Nolvadex for 2 weeks after the cycle. So yes, I was inexperienced and didn't know much about anti-estrogens and most of them weren't even available at the time. I'm sure that the addition of an anti-estrogen to my earlier cycles could have made a great impact on decreasing some of the sides.

NN

 

[Nutrient-Nut]

Thanks for the inormation, I am a newbie, started my first cycle, Deca, Test enthanate. I like what I read about Primo. Can you compare the results that you have had with primo vs. test?

Primobolan is one of my favorites! It is mainly a pure anabolic steroid with very little androgen presence. It is weaker than Deca, but it will provide quality gains with hardly any water retention and these gains are easily maintained. It mixes well with lots of steroids but I prefer it stacked with Dianabol or Winstrol the most. Primo and D-bol is an ideal stack for good mass. In fact, this was Arnold's favorite stack. Side effects from Primo are minimal and very rare. Primo is the safest injectable steroid out there, but it is getting harder and harder to find legit Primo, which is a shame, since it is such a great steroid.

Testosterone Enanthate is going to give you more strength, size, and aggression than Primo b/c it is the higher androgen. This drug use to be called Dela, I don't know if it still is, but it will make your body retain water, so you might want to consider Arimidex if you haven't already. I did a cycle of Enanthate, Deca, and Winstrol and gained around 20 lbs, but then lost lots of the weight later mainly due to the fact that most of it was water weight. The Enanthate gave me lots of acne all over my shoulders and upper back. I believe it was the worst case of acne that I ever had and I'm not the kind of guy that breaks out easily.
I will say one good thing about Enanthate, my strength was insane and the aggression was extremely appreciated in the gym. Now, if I would have had Arimidex, this cycle may have had less sides and I probably wouldn't have gained quite as much weight, but then with Arimidex you have to worry about your lipid profiles with greater concern. This is why I prefer not using stuff like Arimidex and opting for the higher anabolics that don't require an anti-estrogen during the cycle.

NN

 

[The Architect]

Nutrient I definitely agree with you when it comes to enthanate. It's good to hear from vets like you. Could you give some examples of cycles that you like.

 

[Zoomster]

Good information. Speaking of Primo, I know what you mean, reading on this AS it seems as if it is perfect for my goals and stacked with dianabol..I can really see the advantages. I tried to get some primo, ordered it and when I received it I was initially convinced that it was the real deal until someone told me that it should have on the bottle AEM : EN then a number if it is EM instead of EN it is fake, mine has EM. Damn!

 

[Machiavellian Muscle]

How many people have tried primo and got any significant frontal hairshedding. I was considering primo.

 

[MoreBeefPlease]

good posts

 

[hard as rocks]

holy shit, your story is almost identical too mine.started at 18, took way too many drugs, new nothing about nutrition or training and after devoloping jaudice i had too quit everything completely.
my liver values were throught the roof, my skin was yellow and felt like total shit.major depression and many other things too boot.
i was also doing many rec drugs along with the roids and drinking daily, which achieved nothing.
but after taking many courses in anatomy, physiology and nutrition i decided too start again.
i never stopped lifting but took a long break from drugs too recover.
all my blood work now came back normal and i get tested periodically.
but please learn from are mistakes.keep reading and reading, because you never know enough.there is someone who always knows more and take advice from vets and take some courses too increase your knowledge.
there are no magic pills, everything comes with hard work and dedication.
good luck

 

[gtaman]

Stories like this are all too common. Watching an aunt who has developed jaundice because of a cancerous tumour in her bile duct makes me really think twice about the damage we inflict on ourselves willingly.

Anyone in the younger age bracket who is megadosing on AS and maybe combining with rec drugs or alcohol - why do this to yourself?

Sane cycles can happen and doses can even creep up a bit. But for god's sake don't wreck your perfectly healthy organs when you're only 18.

 

[Nutrient-Nut]

How many people have tried primo and got any significant frontal hairshedding. I was considering primo.

This seems to be the only negative thing about Primobolan. It is harsh on the hairline like Winstrol. But, it really depends on your genetic predisposition to MPB in regard to whether you're going to lose hair or not. I'm an older guy at 35 and it's not a problem for me, but I still have a full head of hair with just a slight receding hairline. IMO, Winstrol is a little worse than Primo for hair loss.

NN

 

[dzuljas]

jaundice?? jesus man..........that sucks, im glad I found elite and did a whole bunch of research b4 starting gear

 

[SILVURBAQ]

do u do any test anymore, at ur age it would be benificial maybe 250 a week, I think any newbie can gain on 250 a week and even veterans

 

[Nutrient-Nut]

do u do any test anymore, at ur age it would be benificial maybe 250 a week, I think any newbie can gain on 250 a week and even veterans

Nope! No test at all. I've only done Testosterone Cypionate and Testosterone Enanthate in my early days, never tried any other form of test. Now, I'm not saying that test can not be used at a safe dose, because I'm sure that it can...like at the 250 mg per week dose that you mentioned. I think that doctors prescribe around 200 mg per week of testosterone for men with low natural test levels. Personally, I've had great success without test so I'm not worried about using it now. When I was 19, I was taking around 600 mg injections of Testosterone Cypionate per week along with moderate doses of Deca-Durabolin and Dianabol for bulking, so my bad experiences with test were dose related added to the fact that I didn't use an anti-estrogen of any kind. This kind of left a negative impact on me and therefore I shy away from test now.

Do I believe that newbies & vets could make good gains on 250 mg per week of test?.....Yes, I do! Be smart and try to use the lowest effective dose possible with test, it's powerful gear.

NN