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broke out in hives on my fore arms taking Benadryl which has pretty much cleared up the hives. Should I continue on?
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More info I am two days in on 200 this is the only side I have had so far. My temp hasn't gone above 37.6.
wnt2bBeast
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QT why you trying to lose weight? your beautiful the way you are!!!!!!
DO NOT CONTINUE!!! That is a possible alergic reaction. Since the half life is 36hrs everytime you take more you are adding it to what is already in your system. Hives based on 200mgs could equal hospital on 400mgs. I use DNP all the time, sweating my balls off right now because of it. if i ever showed signs of an alergic reaction I would give it up forever. Its not worth it.
theoak01
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ya def dont continue,stop let it clear your system and maybe give it a go in a few weeks.
you may want to take quecetin(sp) a week before and run through and up to a week after the cycle, I bought mine in a qbc (quercetin,bromelain,vit c)complex and took 1500mg quecetin a day with benadryl on hand in case another break out
you may want to take quecetin(sp) a week before and run through and up to a week after the cycle, I bought mine in a qbc (quercetin,bromelain,vit c)complex and took 1500mg quecetin a day with benadryl on hand in case another break out
Trying to get a little extra lean for my FL trip in amonth.wnt2bBeast said:
Guess I will have to stick with clen and var to lean out. Although I had read that your body can build up an emunity (sp?) to DNP over time.halfaclue said:
Speaking of DT where is he when I need him?view said:
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Ulcasterdropout
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Here it is......
That's a shame. Maybe ECA, Var/T3, or Clen/Keto/Taurine
DNP is not for you...Life and learn....
wnt2bBeast is right, you're phucking sassy the way you are
That's a shame. Maybe ECA, Var/T3, or Clen/Keto/Taurine
DNP is not for you...Life and learn....
wnt2bBeast is right, you're phucking sassy the way you are
Thanks doll we are hardest on ourselves. I was 15% in June-July now I am up around 18% and feeling like a fatty.Ulcasterdropout said:Here it is......
That's a shame. Maybe ECA, Var/T3, or Clen/Keto/Taurine
DNP is not for you...Life and learn....
wnt2bBeast is right, you're phucking sassy the way you are
Funny thing is DNP never scared me but T3 does I have no plans of touching it tell I get below 13% bf and only for pre comp.
SuperDawgy
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wnt2bBeast said:
Tis true, but thats like telling Needsize that he's big enough. Women...pfffttt! Always trying to look better. It doesn't matter if we think they are already blazing hot or not.
Stop the DNP sexy, stick with clen and winstrol.
Yeah that Needsize is a tiny thing.SuperDawgy said:
j/k
SuperDawgy
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Yeah, him and Galaxy both need to go eat some wheaties before they blow away.
GoldenDelicious
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discontinue use, while having a few hives isnt a big problem, youre risking a major allergic reaction which can be fatal
there are people who have just taken an antihistamine all the way through prophyllactically against hives and come out fine...but you dont get to hear from the ones that dont
chat to you later
there are people who have just taken an antihistamine all the way through prophyllactically against hives and come out fine...but you dont get to hear from the ones that dont
chat to you later
wnt2bBeast
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SuperDawgy said:
your right..most women even drop dead georgeous ones likes qt tend to stress the negatives..
TraxZBT
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superqt4u2nv said:
if your getting a reaction... just stop it permanently. I went through 6 or 7 cycles before my body just started developing oozing sores out of nowhere. Even at 200mg (On the first day!) they appear and take exactly 2 weeks to heals
it was fun while it lasted, but maybe its better off that way.
Thanks doll no more DNP for me!GoldenDelicious said:
Eww I got a lot of hives all over my fore arms and a bit on my back but the Benadryl has pretty much cleared it up just a little flushness now.TraxZBT said:
GoldenDelicious
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flushness? whats flushness?superqt4u2nv said:
sounds nice
LOL not really it is like I am blushing all over my body.GoldenDelicious said:flushness? whats flushness?
sounds nice
GoldenDelicious
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yeah, i have that effect on people all the timesuperqt4u2nv said:
Another thing I noticed today is that the DNP dried out my skin a lot. At least I think that is what did it.
Your coming to Florida? Where? Here in Miami? Come see me! Anyways...I laugh when these Canadians come here to South Beach. How can I tell their Canadians? Very simple! First off they are very pale white and stick out in the crowd easily! The other thing is that they are sweating like you can't even imagine! Not only men but the women too! And for some reason they just love flaunting their Canadianism around. Either with a shirt that shows their flag or their hockey team. Well Super...I wish you luck, may the force be with you. Because it is only 88 degrees right now with a humidty of 75% but for you it will feel.....
LIKE THE SOUTH OF HELL IN AUGUST!
LIKE THE SOUTH OF HELL IN AUGUST!
Carth said:
I tan before I head south nothing worse then being the pastiest person on the beach. Humidity yuck spend an hour straightening my hair for it to go all freezy and curly the minute I step outside. My parents have a place in Port Charlotte but I may be making a day trip a little further south see how things pan out.
You better more than once before jumping on that plane. One tan isn't going to cut it here in FL. BTW...Where the hell is Port Charlotte? Shit sounds boring as hell! If your not in Miami or Orlando...FL can be very fucking boring.
LOL it is on the west coast nothing but old people. I get a good base tan in about 3 sessions, but I will probably go tanning the whole week before I leave.Carth said:
Only stumbling block is the few thousand miles between us.Razorguns said:
Why don't people like this avi? : pouts :Razorguns said:
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mr.cuts
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superqt4u2nv said:
stupid broad. Are you to lazy to diet correctly and do cardio????
mr.cuts said:
and who are you to judge jackass?
I've used dnp many times myself, and I'm not too lazy to diet and do cardio. In fact, I've gotten down to 3% bf without anything like that, so how about we see your pics so you can back up your mouth???? My guess your mouth is the only large part on your physique
Ouch! You tell him though Needsize! Bro! Who the fuck are you to talk like that! And to hot broad! A girl nonetheless dumbass! The nerve of this guy! And he just joined us?! Holy Shit!
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mr.cuts
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needsize said:
hey asshole, i am 210lbs at 6% bodyfat measured via the hydrostatic method. There is no way you were 3% unless it was measured by the caliper method.
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mr.cuts
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needsize said:
If you have gotten down to 3% without DNP, why the need to use it many times????? You are a moron.
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mr.cuts
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Carth said:
I've seen her pics. She is far from hot.
He didn't just join us he is an alter without a doubt. Check his previous posts first thing he did when he got on here was start ripping on well respected members. (i.e. Needsize and Galaxy) Don't worry I am sure he will be gone soon enough.Carth said:
jpl26
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superqt4u2nv said:
When liver glycogen runs out, DNP starts to cause a sharp drop in the T4-T3 conversion, this lowers body temperature. This is actually good. Since plasma T3 levels go down, so does proteolysis. Therefore, the drop in temperature is muscle sparing.
Normal body temps for people on DNP is 36.0 - 37.8. (This depends on several variables...genetics and several others..but no need to worry)
I'm surprised your temperature is at 37.6 though. Women in general have lower body temperatures than men. Has to do with their smaller thyroid gland.
The only things that can make your temperature go up while on DNP is: (Assumming you're taking 200-400mg/day)
1. Not getting enough water. Dehydration caused by the sweating from the DNP causes your core body temperature to go up while on DNP, and is by far the most dangerous factor. Make sure you also consume enough sodium and potassium. More sodium than piotassium. Sodium makes you retain the
water you drink(good). And potassium will help prevent cramps.
if you stay well hydrated your temperature will not increase.
Filtered water is not too great because it contains like 5mg sodium per litre. Either drink V8 Juice,(Super-high sodium content), or some other drink with high sodium levels to replenish lost water stores.
2. Any type of diuretic. This is self-explanatory really. Diuretics cause water loss, and therefore dehydration. Caffeine is weak enough to not dehydrate you to any great extent. So, you can use an ECA stack while on DNP with no problems. Just consume enough water...in the 3.0-5.0L range.
3.DNP raises levels of the neuro-peptide Y. A peptide in the brain that is chiefly believed to control hunger. Therefore increased hunger might cause over-eating, and this in turn causes the DNP to block the extra calories(Glucose) into being converted to ATP, and in turn, turns the extra glucose into extra heat. Result: You sweat even though your temperature most likely remains stable. However, since you're sweating, you start to get dehydrated. So, over time...your body temperature will begin to crawl up due to dehydration.
Only bad side to all this, is that the more water you consume, the more you will sweat. (This is alrgely dose dependent, but holds true for dosages over 200mg/day). Your bodies surface area is not big enough to completely radiate the heat caused by the DNP, so you begin to sweat.
Just not the best thing to have happenning to you when you're around people. And DNP sweat, has a very strong smell. Very noticeable.
If I were you, i would not do 200mg/day, I would do 200mg EOD. That should yield slow but sure results w/o any of the dreaded day and night sweats+insomnia.
Insomnia is caused by the DNP because DNP blocks insulin. Blocking insulin in turn does not let L-trytophan(One of the largest amino acid molecules) pass through the blood-brain barrier (As it's competing with much smaller amino acids for certain receptors), and convert to 5-HT(serotonin) centrally in the brain. You need to increase serotonin levels in order to start to sleep, and reach REM sleep. 5-HTP btw will not work. Neither will L-trytophan to any large degree, even in massive dosages.
DNP is also a weak depressant btw. So, addign a stimulant like the ECA stack I mentioned before during the day is a good idea. Also, since ECA is an anorectic, it seems to counter-act the effects of the increased levels of Neuro-peptide Y induced by the DNP quite well(Which makes you crave food) during the day.
At night, you either tough it out....or as an alternative that works you can use a benzodiazeopine like Xanax or ambien etc... or a sleeping pill like Sonata, in order to help you sleep. Since this is only really for the short-term (2-3 weeks), while you're on DNP, and the time during when the DNP is leaving your system, the chances of becoming dependent on the sleep aids mentioned is minimal.
There is no need for T3 while on DNP, no matter the length of your cycle. Exogeneously administered T3 just gets excreted.
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mr.cuts
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superqt4u2nv said:
I never ripped on needsize of galaxy. I made a comment reffering to the fact the Njripped was not concerned with achieving the levels of muscle mass that needsize or galaxy possessed. Personally, I think both needsize and galaxy have among the top builds on this site.
jbradley2093
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mr.cuts said:
Yeah, you're going to make a lot of friends... I see a ban coming on soon enough.
This guy reminds me of urallknobgobblers that was making posts like this a month or so ago.
until you can post a pic to back up your mouth, then no one on here is going to buy any stats that you post
and I have pics posted all over this site at 3-4% bf, so I can back up what I say anytime
There is a difference between needing something like dnp, and experimenting to see how your body responds to different compounds, to see if they have a place in your training
and I have pics posted all over this site at 3-4% bf, so I can back up what I say anytime
There is a difference between needing something like dnp, and experimenting to see how your body responds to different compounds, to see if they have a place in your training
Can't we all just.....IGNORE HIM? Please? Just ignore and he'll go awayyyyyyy!
SuperQT....how much DNP are you taking? Just 200mgs per day or what? What do you feel on it? Do you feel like shit? Do you get sweats bad? I was wanting to try it out for next year but everbody here pretty much convinced me to stay away from it.
SuperQT....how much DNP are you taking? Just 200mgs per day or what? What do you feel on it? Do you feel like shit? Do you get sweats bad? I was wanting to try it out for next year but everbody here pretty much convinced me to stay away from it.
I took 200mgs per day. I felt kinda tired on it. I never got really hot or sweaty. I got hot flashes but not real bad. It is worth a try IMO just make sure that you trust the source you got it from or you cap it yourself. Monitor your temp when your on it. Drink lots of water etc. I read a great artical on DNP a few months back on another board. Make sure you research it then decide for yourself if you want to try it. Talk to people that have used it succesfully and get there input on it. ( I had talked to Needsize, Dial_tone and GoldenD about it before I started. As well as a few females from other boards.) For sure discontinue it if you have an adverse sides your life ain't worth losing a few pounds.Carth said:
GoldenDelicious
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jpl26, could you please inform us of your credentials/background. i feel that you have made some statements that arent quite on the mark regarding the use of this agent. sorry to go into quote mode, but i couldnt do this any other way..
what you have said is akin to saying that a lower dose of dnp is better than a high dose because it will result in less protein being oxidised...you fail to mention what will happen to fat oxidation etc.
am i alone in thinking that the whole dehydration issue is not a root cause of overheating, but rather, a symptom of it?
i dont know who you are, but you sound like fonz. i dont want to jump down your throat, but a lot of what you said is without basis, but is written up to look as if it is legit. i dont know what your intentions are, and hope that they were harmless, but dnp is a drug that could use as little misinformation on it as possible, whatever its origin
cheers
oh, and to the guy knocking QT, fuck you. regardless of how you perceive a person or their looks, learn to keep your tongue between your teeth, or fingers away from the keyboard, when you have something nasty to say.
i dont give a shit who you are in the world, with your 210lbs@6%, since whoever you are or where you are from, you dont have the right to slag people maliciously for no good reason. "i was measured at 6% by the hydrostatic method..." pffffffffffffffffft how impressive...buddy the blood in my dick is technically hydrostatic when im up, youre welcome to have a kneel and bob, asshole
i think this statement is inconsistent, and silly. dnp interferes with normal mitochondrial efficacy, and will result in an increase in body temperature as a direct result of increased nutrient oxidation- saying that a decrease in temperature is good because it is muscle sparing is silly, because there is no specificity to proteolysis- a decreased temp indicates decreased total oxidation, whether its protein, carb or fat.jpl26 said:
what you have said is akin to saying that a lower dose of dnp is better than a high dose because it will result in less protein being oxidised...you fail to mention what will happen to fat oxidation etc.
ah, i wouldnt say that either. the temperature will vary for a person depending on how long into their cycle they are, how they are eating etc. as well as what you ahve mentioned. also, normal temperature for most people is within the range you mentioned, if using a mouth temperature reading. really, its just a useless commentjpl26 said:
did you consider her diet at the time? or the method by which she was measuring her temp? saying that you were surprised that she was a degree or so outside the normal range while on her first could of days on a thermic agent is a bit...stupidjpl26 said:
id like you to justify why dehydration will result in increased body temp, apart from such obvious things as decreased sweat secretion (though i do not feel that will occur). also, the high K content in V8 is a concern you didnt adress, given that in an environemtn of dehydration it can cause an arrhythmia and a heart attack.jpl26 said:
explain how a diuretic will cause an increase in temperature, please.jpl26 said:
right. so dnp depleting your blood glucose causes np-Y to increase, amking you hungry, so you eat more glucose, making you heat up, which makes you sweat, which makes you heat up.jpl26 said:
am i alone in thinking that the whole dehydration issue is not a root cause of overheating, but rather, a symptom of it?
the above statement is as useless as the rest of them.jpl26 said:
why not do 100 a day, then? then you wouldnt have fluctuating symptoms as in the case of having 200 eodjpl26 said:
justify this please. i feel that it is silly to solely attribute the insomnia on body biochemistry rather than really obvious reasons, such as....being fucking hotjpl26 said:
yeah ok, i agree with this. please, no photosjpl26 said:
best to use a sedating antihistamine...this will not only help you sleep, but may save you from a nocturnal allergic reaction...as well as being a more benign class of drug than the benzosjpl26 said:
i think you better do a little research on this, i think that t3 is indicated after the 3rd day on being on dnp. t3 use will aid in fat loss on a lower dose of dnp, meaning the incidence of dose related sides will be far less.jpl26 said:
i dont know who you are, but you sound like fonz. i dont want to jump down your throat, but a lot of what you said is without basis, but is written up to look as if it is legit. i dont know what your intentions are, and hope that they were harmless, but dnp is a drug that could use as little misinformation on it as possible, whatever its origin
cheers
oh, and to the guy knocking QT, fuck you. regardless of how you perceive a person or their looks, learn to keep your tongue between your teeth, or fingers away from the keyboard, when you have something nasty to say.
i dont give a shit who you are in the world, with your 210lbs@6%, since whoever you are or where you are from, you dont have the right to slag people maliciously for no good reason. "i was measured at 6% by the hydrostatic method..." pffffffffffffffffft how impressive...buddy the blood in my dick is technically hydrostatic when im up, youre welcome to have a kneel and bob, asshole
GoldenDelicious
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hm i seem to hvae come off a bit harsh...sorry bout that
Yup DNP is yellow. I hope you got it from a trusted source Razor.Razorguns said:
SlimJim300
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I can't find a DNP source I would trust for the life of me...
I haven't tried T3 yet and I wont tell I get to at least 12-13%. If and when I use it will be pre comp. I am on clen right now and var again too. Trying to diet down for my FL trip. I have used clen before and it worked. I am not sure about the what the DNP has done for me as I also got my monthly bloat at the moment.Razorguns said:Hey Superqt babbbeeyyy...
did DNP do anything for you? Did it work?? Have u tried clen/t3? I don't know if DNP/T3/CLEN etc. type stuff works for women. Very few if any supplements, legal or illegal, do anything for chicks.
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TheRide
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GoldenDelicious said:jpl26, could you please inform us of your credentials/background. i feel that you have made some statements that arent quite on the mark regarding the use of this agent. sorry to go into quote mode, but i couldnt do this any other way..
i think this statement is inconsistent, and silly. dnp interferes with normal mitochondrial efficacy, and will result in an increase in body temperature as a direct result of increased nutrient oxidation- saying that a decrease in temperature is good because it is muscle sparing is silly, because there is no specificity to proteolysis- a decreased temp indicates decreased total oxidation, whether its protein, carb or fat.
what you have said is akin to saying that a lower dose of dnp is better than a high dose because it will result in less protein being oxidised...you fail to mention what will happen to fat oxidation etc.
ah, i wouldnt say that either. the temperature will vary for a person depending on how long into their cycle they are, how they are eating etc. as well as what you ahve mentioned. also, normal temperature for most people is within the range you mentioned, if using a mouth temperature reading. really, its just a useless comment
did you consider her diet at the time? or the method by which she was measuring her temp? saying that you were surprised that she was a degree or so outside the normal range while on her first could of days on a thermic agent is a bit...stupid
id like you to justify why dehydration will result in increased body temp, apart from such obvious things as decreased sweat secretion (though i do not feel that will occur). also, the high K content in V8 is a concern you didnt adress, given that in an environemtn of dehydration it can cause an arrhythmia and a heart attack.
explain how a diuretic will cause an increase in temperature, please.
right. so dnp depleting your blood glucose causes np-Y to increase, amking you hungry, so you eat more glucose, making you heat up, which makes you sweat, which makes you heat up.
am i alone in thinking that the whole dehydration issue is not a root cause of overheating, but rather, a symptom of it?
the above statement is as useless as the rest of them.
why not do 100 a day, then? then you wouldnt have fluctuating symptoms as in the case of having 200 eod
justify this please. i feel that it is silly to solely attribute the insomnia on body biochemistry rather than really obvious reasons, such as....being fucking hot
yeah ok, i agree with this. please, no photos
best to use a sedating antihistamine...this will not only help you sleep, but may save you from a nocturnal allergic reaction...as well as being a more benign class of drug than the benzos
i think you better do a little research on this, i think that t3 is indicated after the 3rd day on being on dnp. t3 use will aid in fat loss on a lower dose of dnp, meaning the incidence of dose related sides will be far less.
i dont know who you are, but you sound like fonz. i dont want to jump down your throat, but a lot of what you said is without basis, but is written up to look as if it is legit. i dont know what your intentions are, and hope that they were harmless, but dnp is a drug that could use as little misinformation on it as possible, whatever its origin
cheers
oh, and to the guy knocking QT, fuck you. regardless of how you perceive a person or their looks, learn to keep your tongue between your teeth, or fingers away from the keyboard, when you have something nasty to say.
i dont give a shit who you are in the world, with your 210lbs@6%, since whoever you are or where you are from, you dont have the right to slag people maliciously for no good reason. "i was measured at 6% by the hydrostatic method..." pffffffffffffffffft how impressive...buddy the blood in my dick is technically hydrostatic when im up, youre welcome to have a kneel and bob, asshole
GoldenDelicious
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buying dnp from a dealer is a lot more dangerous, imoDial_tone said:
if youre going to use the stuff, best to do it yourself. youd have to be mad to take these doses pre-measured by non qualified personell. if you take a look at how much space 200mg of dry dnp takes up relative to a standard size zero capsule, youll probably see that a whole lot more than 200mg dnp fits inside. its not like vitamin C, where the tablet you swallow is almost 100% vitamin C and its still a big bastard tablet...with DNP, overdosing is eeeeaaasssyyy to do
dealers dont care about your health, only your money. if youre going to use DNP, use your head, pull out some cash, buy or rent some very very expensive scales, and do it yourself
better yet, dont do dnp
cheers
SuperQT just do yourself a big favor. And do not get all worked up for your trip to FL. Why? Like I said, if your not coming to Miami or Orlando...your going to be fucking bored out of your mind! I'm not saying this to spark up a fight. I'm saying this to help you out. Just be prepared for the fact that your hopes of having a good time are not going to happen! Florida is the most fucking boring state ever! I lived in N.Y., N.J., Virginia and L.A.. And Florida is by far the worst of all! Just as long as you do not go out of Miami or Orlando...then all is good.
GoldenDelicious said:
I love danger..I'm a mad man and I'm definitely not qualified to do it myself so this way I can blame someone. After all that is what us americans are all about. (j/k) I think dealers do care about your health to a point because if you get sick or die..one dead people can't buy drugs, and two dead people tend to attractive negative attention. Matter of fact, everytime I order DNP my guy e-mails me "now don't go dying on me". That is love right there!
The above is strictly me having fun as I am bored at work. DNP is very serious and dangerous and GoldenDelicious will lay the smack down if any of you mess around with this stuff before doing your homework.
Sincerely
GD's Ogor in NY
Well for GoldenD it would be concidering his profession but I agree that the average person shouldn't be making there own dnp caps.Dial_tone said:
Carth yeah most of the trip is going to be fairly boring but I am hoping for some highlights lets leave it at that.
