D*bol and gyn-o

[PWTurbofan]

I've been reading up on d*bol, and I'm confused. One profile of the drug says that it aromatizes only modestly, and another profile says it aromatizes heavily. What are you experiences with d*bol and estro-related sides (like gyn-o)?

Also, one article says that Nolv-a can be used if gyn-o starts, and another says that Nolv-a is practically useless for d*bol-induced gynecomastia. Which one's right?

 

[holy ghost]

Moderate-Heavy

depends on the predisposition

 

[xrsist]

use an AI instead of nolva

 

[PWTurbofan]

Moderate-Heavy

depends on the predisposition

Test/Dec-a haven't caused issues for me, so I don't believe i'm overly susceptible.

My problem is that my bro has told me not to add an A.I or estrogen blocker DURING cycle as they'd mildly lessen the overall effectiveness of the cycle. His advice was to add letr-o only if symptoms appear. Is that sound advice?

 

[holy ghost]

deca is a different conversion than Dbol estro-wise.

If you have gyno kill it with letro

If not, run dex .5 M F W(if necesary)

 

[nzrodney]

Test/Dec-a haven't caused issues for me, so I don't believe i'm overly susceptible.

My problem is that my bro has told me not to add an A.I or estrogen blocker DURING cycle as they'd mildly lessen the overall effectiveness of the cycle. His advice was to add letr-o only if symptoms appear. Is that sound advice?

Using an AI on cycle cuts down a lot of water weight which I find is quite good for keeping the joints & muscles full & thus allowing a bit more weight to be shifted for more reps/sets. If you can put up with the bloated look I would not use an AI unless you are getting gyno symptoms & then adex is sufficient to control it in most cases. Letro is the strongest AI on the market & kills just about all the estrogen in the body which makes you feel like shit & can impact on the bodies immune system. But for reversing Gyno lumps it is regarded as the best. (PS Even 6OXO an OTC supp is an effective natural AI & works for me)

 

[1tight_tl]

Of all the compounds i have taken the only one that causes gyno for me is dbol...nothing else has...I still run it for a jump start during my first 4 weeks and take adex..If I get a knot (which i did get a small one) I will take femera...

 

[PWTurbofan]

Of all the compounds i have taken the only one that causes gynecomastia for me is Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ...nothing else has...I still run it for a jump start during my first 4 weeks and take Arimidex - anastrozole - ..If I get a knot (which i did get a small one) I will take femera...

yeah that's my fear...i've read more than one d*bol experience causing gyn-o. What dose are you using for the 4 weeks of d*bol?

 

[signme123]

Like they said, its different for each person. Im running 50mg a day. (start of my 2nd week) and i feel none of the early symptoms of gyno. And No, im not running adex with it, but i have that and letro on hand.

 

[1tight_tl]

yeah that's my fear...i've read more than one d*bol experience causing gyn-o. What dose are you using for the 4 weeks of d*bol?

I run 30mg a day split up into 2-3 doses to keep blood leves even...weeks 1-4 on my cycle...great pumps in the gym when on it and a good way to see immediate results intil your test kicks in....

 

[PWTurbofan]

Like they said, its different for each person. Im running 50mg a day. (start of my 2nd week) and i feel none of the early symptoms of gynecomastia. And No, im not running Arimidex - anastrozole - with it, but i have that and Femera - letrozole - on hand.

I'm hoping I have a similar experience. Your other post "kicked in" makes me want to start sooner than Dec!

 

[PWTurbofan]

I run 30mg a day split up into 2-3 doses to keep blood leves even...weeks 1-4 on my cycle...great pumps in the gym when on it and a good way to see immediate results intil your test kicks in....

30mg for first 4 weeks - exactly what i'm planning. I originally was going to run for 5, but i've since backed away from that.

 

[ALIN]

I've been reading up on d*bol, and I'm confused. One profile of the drug says that it aromatizes only modestly, and another profile says it aromatizes heavily. What are you experiences with d*bol and estro-related sides (like gyn-o)?

Also, one article says that Nolv-a can be used if gyn-o starts, and another says that Nolv-a is practically useless for d*bol-induced gynecomastia. Which one's right?

I would run a small dose of AI like Arimidex along wit ht e DBOL,,it will aromatize

 

[shoestring2]

Dbol gives me gyno symptems within a week. 10 - 20 mg nolva stops it within a day or two.

 

[DM2007]

I started getting sore nipples 4th week of dbol in cycle only time ever happened

 

[nemesis 2027]

FWIW, my first cycle was d.bol 20 mg ed 4 wks, and started n.olv 10 mg ed in the 2nd week just to be safe. Whether or not it paid off.. well I didn't have problems other than elevated bp. I did p.c.t. with clomid for 3 weeks after the last day of the d.bol.

Lost 2 lbs first week, gained back 7 lbs by the end, and kept 6 lbs after the p.c.t. Strength increased 20 percent, which was all my old fried joints could handle so quickly, and I have kept most all of the strength since.

I plan to run again, late winter, only at 25-30 mg ed 4-5 weeks and adding reg Derm with the cycle, and Derm Sustain with p.c.t.