CYP vs ENANTHATE

[narshh]

Choosing between cyp and enanthate to stack with primo. Had made the choice of cyp but have been told that water retention is better with enanthate.

Any thoughts?

 

[nomad12]

you will be running AI right. So it doesnt really matter. The difference is very small between the 2. Cyp has a the tendancy to be less painful generally. You will grow a little faster with cyp but keep geens a little longer with enth. I would go with cyp. It was the only test produced by US companies.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Ive used both, and prefer cyp.. Im using the Testex Elmu, and the stuff is awesome. Thin, smooth, and painless.. As for water retention, I actually held more with the Enanthate.. Maybe it was just me though!

 

[letsrun4it]

If you go with Test Cyp by LSP use a 23 gauge- ive been using 25 sometimes and it takes quite the force to get it to go.

 

[narshh]

Ive used both, and prefer cyp.. Im using the Testex Elmu, and the stuff is awesome. Thin, smooth, and painless.. As for water retention, I actually held more with the Enanthate.. Maybe it was just me though!

Thanks. How long have you been on the testex? How many ml per amp?

 

[surferstar]

Great thing about cyp is you really only have to inject once a week so with something like EQ it works great.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Thanks. How long have you been on the testex? How many ml per amp?

This is week 6 for me. Using 750mg, so 3 amps a week. Only bad thing its 125mg/ml, so its alot more oil. But the stuff is so, so smooth, and absolutely no pain. Best cyp I ever used, besides the prescription Depo Test. Highly recommend..

 

[JCMC]

Choosing between cyp and enanthate to stack with primo. Had made the choice of cyp but have been told that water retention is better with enanthate.

Any thoughts?

I have used both the test e gives me flu like symptoms. Test cyp smooth as can be I've used presciption cyp by signature pharms and QV cyp no problems.

 

[25homes]

Have some arim, aromisin, letro and dont worry about the bloat...either would be fine go with what is cheaper.IMO

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

I have used both the test e gives me flu like symptoms. Test cyp smooth as can be I've used presciption cyp by signature pharms and QV cyp no problems.

QV cyp is complete garbage, and doesnt even come close to the quality of Testex Elmu or Depo Test.

 

[steelmass]

Cyp takes too long to kick in... Go enthate, frontload Cyp or jumpstart with DBol. The entire concept of a cycle is to get to maximum blood levels and sustain for entire cycle. Cyp gradually increases, therefor shutting you down with little-no quality gains for the first few weeks.

 

[USHP]

Test c or e? I don't think it matters if water retention is your concern as you'll be running an AI, I would assume. Running either e or c I would use something to kickstart. As Steelmass said dbol is great for this but I would use test prop ed for wks 1-4 then drop it (because I don't like orals anymore). I do one shot of c or e for wks 1-4 (along with the daily prop) then what I do is split the weekly dosage of test c or e in wk 5 and I do it 2 shots per/wk and I do that to the last wk of test use and I go back to 1 shot of the total wks dosage for that last wk. To a lot of guys this might just be g mac thinking too much but it works for me.

You can do the test c or e in 1 shot/wk but for me it feels more stable the 2 shot way. I also adjust my dosage of test so that I factor in ester weight. For example, 100mg of cyp only yields about 70mg of test the rest is ester so I do the math so that if I was doing 700mg test c per/wk I would have to adjust to make up for -30mg of test 7 times to really get 700mg. To make it easier for me to explain, if I had test c that came 100mg/ml then I would have to take 910mg/wk to get a real yield of 700mg of test. I don't know if anyone else on the planet does this and I don't care either but if I want 700mg/wk of test then I do the adjustments.

Hope I did the math right as I'm half asleep.

 

[Shinzon]

Test c or e? I don't think it matters if water retention is your concern as you'll be running an AI, I would assume. Running either e or c I would use something to kickstart. As Steelmass said dbol is great for this but I would use test prop ed for wks 1-4 then drop it (because I don't like orals anymore). I do one shot of c or e for wks 1-4 (along with the daily prop) then what I do is split the weekly dosage of test c or e in wk 5 and I do it 2 shots per/wk and I do that to the last wk of test use and I go back to 1 shot of the total wks dosage for that last wk To a lot of guys this might just be g mac thinking too much but it works for me.

You can do the test c or e in 1 shot/wk but for me it feels more stable the 2 shot way. I also adjust my dosage of test so that I factor in ester weight. For example, 100mg of cyp only yields about 70mg of test the rest is ester so I do the math so that if I was doing 700mg test c per/wk I would have to adjust to make up for -30mg of test 7 times to really get 700mg. To make it easier for me to explain, if I had test c that came 100mg/ml then I would have to take 910mg/wk to get a real yield of 700mg of test. I don't know if anyone else on the planet does this and I don't care either but if I want 700mg/wk of test then I do the adjustments.

Hope I did the math right as I'm half asleep.

Good f'ing post bro!

 

[blut wump]

If you go with Test Cyp by LSP use a 23 gauge- ive been using 25 sometimes and it takes quite the force to get it to go.

I've used a Terumo Neolus 24G with the BD Cyp.

 

[narshh]

You can do the test c or e in 1 shot/wk but for me it feels more stable the 2 shot way.

Split the dose for this? That does seem to make sense. It would seem that you would maintain more constant levels that way.

 

[brohim]

If you go with Test Cyp by LSP use a 23 gauge- ive been using 25 sometimes and it takes quite the force to get it to go.

I use a 25 guage to inject LSP Cyp with no problems. Try using a hair dryer to heat it in the syringe prior to injection if it is too thick for a 25 guage for your taste.