Cycle Question

[terrapin]

I am a light gear user. I haven't done a cycle in 2years - last one i did was winny alone and had great results. I just picked up some primo and var from TJ and want to start a cycle. i was thinking of 50mg/day primo tabs and 30mg/anavar. I just want to gain some strenght and a few solid pounds. I know my what my diet has to be, but would like some suggestions on the cycle. Also, would I need any PCT after this cyle (running it 8 weeks). Thanks.

 

[jeb0177]

I suggest you to add some test with it bro or proviron .

 

[terrapin]

Can you explain why I should use proviron? As far as test goes - I don't have any and most of the stuff I can get my hands on is vet stuff - which I won't inject.

 

[jeb0177]

Many athletes, for this reason, often use Proviron at the end of a steroid treatment in order to increase the reduced testoster-one production. This, however, is not a good idea since Proviron has no effect on the body's own testosterone production but-as men-tioned in the beginning-only reduces or completely eliminates the dysfunctions caused by the testosterone deficiency. These are, in par-ticular, impotence which is mostly caused by an androgen deficiency that can occur after the discontinuance of steroids, and infertility which manifests itself in a reduced sperm count and a reduced sperm quality. Proviron is therefore taken during a steroid administration or after discontinuing the use of the steroids, to eliminate a possible impotency or a reduced sexual interest.

 

[Apexx]

I've never personally used primo tabs, but from what I know they are only about
1/2 as effective as the injections. If that's true, you would only be doing 75mg to
100mg per week. That may be a bit too light IMO

 

[terrapin]

I've never personally used primo tabs, but from what I know they are only about
1/2 as effective as the injections. If that's true, you would only be doing 75mg to
100mg per week. That may be a bit too light IMO

Thanks for the response but the dosage is 50mg/day = 350mg/week. It is true it is not as potent as the injectable, but it is a different compound and it is effective, especially if taken every day stacked with another steroid. Also, most recommendations I have seen suggest very high doses of any steroid - I have always had good results on low doses (ie: 200mg deca/week was excellent for me). I don't do many cycles, so I respond well.

 

[Apexx]

for whatever reason, I was thinking 50mg eod.

I can get primo tabs pretty cheap, but have always stayed away because
of what I've heard about it's potency. Have you used them previously or know
anyone who has?

 

[terrapin]

Again, suggested doses are just that - suggestions! I used 25mg/day primo tabs and 20mg/day var for 8 weeks (about two years ago) I was never so ripped! It really all depends on how many cycles you do and how heavy the cycles are. Also, as we all know, how well do you stick to your diet. I am curious about these primo - they are a brand new pill from QV. I will start in about a week and keep you posted. The pills ran me about $5/pill - definetly pricey - but if they work as expected I don't care. Good, sustainable gains from an oral thats not a 17AA!

 

[Apexx]

tarrapin, good luck with the cycle. Definitely keep me posted, I'm curious to
see how they work for you.

 

[terrapin]

Will do. Wish someone else had tried the QV primo - but I am sure its good.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

Will do. Wish someone else had tried the QV primo - but I am sure its good.

QV is a reputable company however the primo tabs just like tren tabs suffer from absorption problems..youre not getting 350mg of anabolics in your system..you would be lucky if you got half that..honestly i would have saved the money on the primo tabs and bought enough var for 50mg/day..better yet test is pretty cheap too..

 

[terrapin]

wnt2bBeast - thanks for the info. I have enough to do 100mg/day if necessary. I know there are some absorption problems, but I was unaware about a 50% hit. I have plenty of Var to do 50mg/day (see other post Ok this is what I have...). But I heard that 50-100mg/day stacked with var would be a great cutting cycle. Also, what type of PCT do I need...thanks

 

[wnt2bBeast]

wnt2bBeast - thanks for the info. I have enough to do 100mg/day if necessary. I know there are some absorption problems, but I was unaware about a 50% hit. I have plenty of Var to do 50mg/day (see other post Ok this is what I have...). But I heard that 50-100mg/day stacked with var would be a great cutting cycle. Also, what type of PCT do I need...thanks

primo/var is a great cutter but thats assuming youre using injectable primo..Also cutting is more about diet and cardio than gear..the purpose of gear is to hold onto your lbm while reducing calories..theres a whole board devoted to pct..look at how you should use nolva/clomid and hcg..understand those and you will be fine