cycle options and pct

[audizz a4]

hey guys heres what im thinkin for my next cycle

my stats

21
6'4
192
bf 9-11%
training for 5 years now
good eating diet, about 5-6 full meals a day

10 wk cycle of test cyp at 4-500 mg a week
deca at 2-400 mg a week for 10 wks
test prop for 4 weeks at 75 mg everyday
then novaldex 10-20 mg a day for 15 weeks

then clomid therapy on week 13-15

next choice
test cyp 11 week at 4-500 mg a week
deca 10 wk at 2-400 mg a week
dbol 4 weeks at 35 mg a day 4 weeks
nolvadex for 16 wks at 20 mg a day

my questions are as for the novaldex ive never used before and i dont kno if i should ask my guy if he can get it or is it something i can buy off a shelf or where? never done a pct
this will b my third cycle and ive done some research and these stacks seem to be along the lines of what im looking for
any experience with either
ideas on modifying?
prices?
all and any help appreciated
yes i am still new to here and im learning so if you guys could point me in different direction in a AS way then do it, i already am set in my mind im cycling again

 

[audizz a4]

my goal is to hit about 215 and keep it on, so i need to be informed ona good pct for after and what i shld use and go about how to get it

 

[sweed]

look into other pct products like sustain alpha and others. test 500 ew/ deca 400 ew and dbol 25mgs ed. pass on the prop for the first few since the dbol will kick start the cycle. You will grow nicely. keep cals around 3K and protein above 300 grams/day. only powder 2 times a day at most and everything else in sold form. good essential fats and low glycemic carbs ( except simple after workouts). 12 weeks you can end the deca a week before the test. Dbol weeks 1-4. pct 13- 16+

 

[audizz a4]

so the test cyp 500 a week, deca 400 a week, and dbol 25 a day?

and more info for the pct, is it pills or injectables and i shld look into other products such as the alpha? no clomid or novaldex?

 

[audizz a4]

and the sustain is a cream?

 

[audizz a4]

srry bout the post

 

[HAYEZ]

prices
my boy said 000for the cyp 000for the dca and 150 to the dbol..... gear seems to be on the high end of the pricin right?

dont tlk about prices edit ur post....

6'4 and 192 lbs you need to have your training and diet reviewed before touching steroids

 

[audizz a4]

well i kno i cld bulk up alot more since my legs arent were they should be, i stop lifting legs xcept calves during season(bball) to help keep them lighter and help me jump higher... and for the diet im still working on and tweeking a good one for me, im very lean but am by no means lanky more closer to 6'3, one thing i do hate is my chest is the only part that seems to take longest to develop.. even kno i put up good weight for the lack of size shown

 

[gladiator21]

1. you need to lift legs every week. squats,lunges,leg curls,calf curls...many people dont relize how important lifting legs is...I see retards all the time around my gym that take juice and have toothpick legs..they look stupid. Your cycle setup looks good with cyp/deca/dbol but just remember deca stays in your system for over 1 year. I cant believe youve never ran a post cycle prior to this....heres what i do...i have nolva on the side if during the cycle i start seeing gyno and take 40 mg a day till it goes away..then on week 11+12 use 5000 iu's of hcg everyweek..then on week 13 use 150 mg of clomid ed, week 14 use 100 mg clomid ed, week 15 50 mg of clomid ed, week 16 25 mg of clomid ed.....you will keep mostly all your gains...still expect to lose about 5 pounds

 

[audizz a4]

wat would be a good alt. to deca? im not really worried about testing for gear because 1. its expensive and 2 honestly i dont think im doin anything that would cause me to get tested for juice

 

[audizz a4]

and also were to get the hcg n pct gear, shld it all be coming from the same source, is it just as "illegal" as the actual gear to have or get? or is this something i can buy that is advertised

 

[gladiator21]

hcg is illegal but in my opionon its a must because you work hard to get the gains from the juice and hcg is the best way to go..its spikes your natural test. production up so you dont feel like complete crap and make you depressed when u come off a cycle. deca and cyp will make you a lot thicker and people will notice that.....have you ever done Trenbolone Acetate?? thats my favorite steroid by far... other options to subsitute deca are primobolan ( expensive) or equipoise

 

[audizz a4]

my first cycle i ever did was tren ace, and test prop.. loved that cycle! again didnt do pct, then i did a sus250 cycle, not a very clean as... i can get anything except where to find the hcg and others, if i can modify my cycle to something with the tren id like to get that because prior experience... and about the gettin big im not worried about people asking ?'s the people i kno close wont say anything and others kno i go crazy at the gym reguardless... i was orig lookin for a stack w. tren but thats spensive and im not even to look and spend as much on the cyp deca dbol cycle as i would like, if thers a good alt for that cycle w the tren ill b there for that, i wnna try dbol cus ive nevr takn any pills and im deff doint a pct so i keep my gains! and not blow my mny

 

[audizz a4]

was thinkin tren, deca, dbol and that would almost run me same price, i loved the recovery time on the tren it was amazing..... the first cycle is waht got me hooked... because as ive learnd from being a nuub is if u do this right and have the nutrition plan to go with it u can make some serious advancemnt on yer training....

 

[gladiator21]

i convert finaplix h into tren ace....its not as hard as it sounds ..everclear,some straws,sesame seed oil, hot water......i can do 20 ml of it for about $45...that cycle would be killer if u subsituted the deca for tren i would do it like this

500mg cypionate every week
100mg tren ace eod
25 mg dbol ed for 4 weeks max

you'll get strong as hell with dbol...bloat will come with it but you can use the water pill to reduce the bloat after your done with it....make sure to have nolvadex on hand to..you will most likely see gyno with dbol

 

[audizz a4]

yeh none to u but i think i would prefer the tren to come from the pharm. haha i wld do that cyle 1 i jst dont kno were to get sustain alpha, novaldex, or any other pct needed.... that cycle would do work forsure but be $$$$priceyy, wats the water pill? bloating wldnt be a thing.... im reall tall and cut.. n the gyno hope to god that dsnt happen... i want this to be the perfect cycle for me keep almost all gains then take a break from AS for about a year or soo

 

[gladiator21]

check your inbox.........the water pill you can buy at vitamin world or gnc..its cheap..i used to use it to cut water weight when i was in wrestling..works good except your piss smells like shit...