Cycle Opinions

[tewesy1]

Hi guys, I'm new to ef.com but have been lurking for years. I've tried sarms, ph's, research chems and gear so I'm not exactly a newbie.

I have a box of goodies ready to be used but I'm tight on money so i cant add anything although i can get my hands on anything. Currently I have on hand 15ml of test 500, 50ml of stanazol, 2ml of deca (left over), a bottle of uniques osta, countless bottles of albuterol, a full tub of vet clen and 3 vials of pgcl.

Im sick of being "almost there" in terms of definition but it also wouldnt hurt to add a bit of size . Im looking to do a clean lean bulk with the compunds above, im simply chasing opinions on what order and what combinations to use them.

Stats

23
97kgs
187cm
4 years lifting

 

[tewesy1]

Cmon guys, no one??

 

[SuperSaiyan3]

Have you ever tried Tren ace?

 

[tewesy1]

Mah mate i havnt. Been extremely tempted though, dont think im ready just yet haha but no doubt will give it a go this year towards summer

 

[Elvia1023]

Any pics? What are you eating on a typical day?

 

[tewesy1]

Just got made redundant with my main job but i still have a half time job. So food has been all over the place. My usual diet is in check and isn't something i worry about. Im not starting this cycle until i have another job to provide.

 

[SuperSaiyan3]

If you can get it, or afford it, it would be worth it to you to try it. The ace is nice because if you don't like any sides it's out of your system relatively quickly. And you can run pretty low doses of test a week on it and be fine. For some people Tren completely transforms them even at a lower dose (300 mg per week). You just gotta push water on it and you are going to sweat like a fat guys underboob

 

[tewesy1]

Yeah i have seen the results of tren through mates, it is amazing stuff.
Im just tryna shred up while putting in a bit of size ao i thought the combination of 500 and stan would accomplish that, not to mention the clen throughout the cycle then finishing with pgcl. With a diet to suite a lean bulk and with those compounds is a lean bulk a achievable?

 

[SuperSaiyan3]

I wouldn't call it bulking, maybe call it putting on a little weight while trying to drop body fat. It's better just to bulk and then lean out. I'm personally not a huge believer in clen for people that aren't competing, because for me at least it's much harder to keep a body fat % I got from clen long term vs from proper diet and training. Maybe I'm just not discipline enough I don't know just my 2¢ on that.

But the winny and test is a sweet run, but it's not going to put on the kind of muscle Tren will, Tren is just crazy the way it changes your look.

 

[tewesy1]

Yeah true that. I just cant do much at the moment... bottom line is should i run the stack im thinking of or bulk with the 500 and and save the stan for a tren cycle? my last cycle was sust 300, had massive calories yet still managed to drop body fat at the end. I likes the way i looked cos i am tall and long muscled but have a heavy frame. But my stomach just doesnt give me that tight look. If i wear singlets i look like 8% but im probably about 12%

 

[SuperSaiyan3]

The Stan doesn't really lean you out it kind of makes you dense. I would split the test up into two shots to total 500 mg a week and around week 4 start running 50 mg of Stan ed it'll make you look pretty good. For me Stan hinders my appetite, so starting at week 4 the test should be in full swing to counter act it eat well diet diet diet

 

[tewesy1]

Fuck it, sounds good to me. Thats exactly how i was gonna run it except i didnt know about the appetite issue the stan. Cheers for your help bro.

 

[SuperSaiyan3]

But there are a lot of people who get hungrier from Stan so you know your body better than any one else but you should honestly just hope to stay the same weight and loose fat and be happy if you gain weight, or just all out bulk and say screw it I'll lean up on the next one

 

[tewesy1]

Well i have a very fast metabolism as it is so i hopebit stays that way. Yeah I'll do a heavy bulk with the 500 just being careful and yhe extra stan can only do good right? Haha

 

[SuperSaiyan3]

He'll Ya why not haha if you can, take glucosamine and chondroitin with it your joints won't hurt so much

 

[tewesy1]

Yeah i have that ready to go haha I've heard winny is bad for that. Anything else i need to be careful of?

 

[SuperSaiyan3]

Nah you should bee good feel free to message me if you have any issues during the cycle. Good luck!

 

[tewesy1]

Cheers bro and i definitely will.