Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I've been clear and free of any AAS for at least 4 years, I had run roughly 4 cycles before that. I have a real hard time remembering exactly what I had taken as I was a little young and very unedecated about AAS. Though I remember my first cycle was 2 shots of sust a week with some d-bol tabs and each cycle increased from there. I ended up not working out for a couple years and have since gotten back into it. Been pretty much steady for almost 2 years now with a clean diet and very minimal drinking. I've pretty much seemed to have peaked or at the very least I'm crawling for any improvement in what I can lift, so I'm looking to cycle again. SO more to the point I have a buddy that is about a month in having really solid gains running 800mg of T400, 300mg Deca and 300mg of Tren a week and was wondering what people thought of this cycle. Also he's doing a half shot of Tren everyday cept sunday, I know its a shorter lasting ester but was wondering if a person can get away with a full shot every other day so one is less of a pin cushion. Also on a side note I've put together a PCT treatment based mainly off one of the PCT stickys, but would consider any advice from others that have had more of a recent hands on experience then I have. Thanks for your time.
Cycle Advice
- Thread starter Rhen
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35 years old, 185 to 190, not sure total body fat but I'm getting close to finally getting my abs and I have striations through my chest when doing incline presses, if that helps. The cycle that my friend is taking and that I was thinking of coping was a 16 week run, which seemed perhaps a little long. I had planned to to a week of HCG 500 to 1000 ED and Nolvadex 20mg ED for about 7 days mid cycle. For PCT I planned to run 3 weeks of HCG 3000 IU a week and Nolvadex ED, then just switch to just the Nolvadex for another couple of weeks. Planned to start the PCT about 5 days after my last shot. I also planned to run Arimedex 0.5mg through out the cycle or if needed. Also I had asked before can a person get away with the Tren EOD or is it alot better to suck it up and do it ED.
needtogetarmy
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Your PCT is messed up.
For a cycle I also do not recommend using tren and deca at the same time. If you do run 1mg of dostinex once a week or .5mg twice a week.
A good cycle based on what you posted would be:
400mg of T400 on M & Th
tren 50mg EOD (Start out the tren low. Its sides effects are a bitch.)
Deca 200mg week either all on one shot or 100mg M and 100mg Th (200mg is perfect, especially since you are running tren).
Dostinex 1mg on M or .5 on M and .5mg on Th
HCG 250ius M & Th
Anastrozole 1mg (or .5mg M & Th)
Run this for 10-14 weeks. Some people go 16. Run the tren 6 to 8 weeks.
If you do not do tren bump the deca to 400mg. Always keep it at a 1:2 ratio with test. e.g. if you take 800mg of test do not take more than 400mg of deca.
Never take over 600mg of deca unless you compete.
Quit the deca two weeks before your last test shot.
PCT:
1000ius of HCG M & Th for two weeks
5 days after your last HCG shot run clomid for 4 weeks @50mg ED
Some people add nolva at 20mg ED with the clomid. I run clomid by itself.
Supplements I like are Unleashed and Post cycle. You can start those after your last shot.
Some would do it differently.
For a cycle I also do not recommend using tren and deca at the same time. If you do run 1mg of dostinex once a week or .5mg twice a week.
A good cycle based on what you posted would be:
400mg of T400 on M & Th
tren 50mg EOD (Start out the tren low. Its sides effects are a bitch.)
Deca 200mg week either all on one shot or 100mg M and 100mg Th (200mg is perfect, especially since you are running tren).
Dostinex 1mg on M or .5 on M and .5mg on Th
HCG 250ius M & Th
Anastrozole 1mg (or .5mg M & Th)
Run this for 10-14 weeks. Some people go 16. Run the tren 6 to 8 weeks.
If you do not do tren bump the deca to 400mg. Always keep it at a 1:2 ratio with test. e.g. if you take 800mg of test do not take more than 400mg of deca.
Never take over 600mg of deca unless you compete.
Quit the deca two weeks before your last test shot.
PCT:
1000ius of HCG M & Th for two weeks
5 days after your last HCG shot run clomid for 4 weeks @50mg ED
Some people add nolva at 20mg ED with the clomid. I run clomid by itself.
Supplements I like are Unleashed and Post cycle. You can start those after your last shot.
Some would do it differently.
Thanks for the imput, I had questioned the amount that my friend had been running as is and have no problem cutting down the amount. Question for you Army if I drop the tren after 6 to 8 weeks should I then bump the deca up at that point? Also for my PCT can a person get away with running Nolvadex instead of Clomid. I already have the Nolva is why I ask, though getting some Clomid wouldn't be much of an issue.
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